No traffic at arrival airport
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@qazme This is useful comment as i have only been trying it on extremely short flights (less than 5 mins) to test the software. I will try a longer one next time.
However, it still doesn't make sense why a shorter flight won't work.....
@chanjkhk I seem to remember a comment somewhere from a dev that also said they don't generate traffic until you hit greater than 250 knots and 5000 feet, or something like that. So maybe the times you've seen traffic you've hit those milestones for the system? So if you are in something slower than a jet it might cause issues currently.
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I've tried what's suggested above and still have no traffic. I've tried flying from KSEA to CYVR, nothing. I also used "slew" and increase my sim rate on a long haul flight, nothing. I've never had issues with FSLTL spawning AI traffic at the arrival airport so it makes no sense to jump through hoops to get AI to work properly. I also noticed the AI that is spawn during flight is just contrails, no AI plane. What a mess.
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I've tried what's suggested above and still have no traffic. I've tried flying from KSEA to CYVR, nothing. I also used "slew" and increase my sim rate on a long haul flight, nothing. I've never had issues with FSLTL spawning AI traffic at the arrival airport so it makes no sense to jump through hoops to get AI to work properly. I also noticed the AI that is spawn during flight is just contrails, no AI plane. What a mess.
@johng1 if you are seeing contrails but no model it means you've hit the display limit for item in MSFS. They limit it to arround 1000 items per session. If you are using GSX in FS Traffic control centre try turning off some/all of the ground services and see if that enfluences anything.
On first run for me on release day I didn't do that and on pushback all the traffic that was there vanished!
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Nothing for me either. Pretty bummed with this product to be honest. Sometimes I get departure aircraft but I never get any aircraft at my chosen destination. Fix it or refund please.
@jasemelbo If you’re still having problems would you please send a ticket via the support page. FS Traffic is much more stable with the latest update but with so many different set ups and variables at play it’s inevitable that people may still experience some issues.
Support can help by gathering extra information so we can work out what is going on in the background to stop traffic from spawning.
John - Just Flight
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Just did a flight from London City to Heathrow......at takeoff, there was some aircraft parked...as I expected....I set my level of aircraft in the sim to be at 10 percent....with 100% of air traffic to be generated. Upon arrival 10 minutes later at Heathrow...there were no aircraft present....and I did make sure that Heathrow was correctly entered in the FS Traffic utility menue....and I confirmed its presence before I took off.
I find that the product works OK with the MSFS 2020 AI Traffic on line engaged....However, I am failing to see the tire smoke effect when twin engines land??...Not sure if this is a bug when using the online AI traffic within the simulator.
Overall, I hope that Just Flight expedites resolving the key issues...for me they include, waiting forever for traffic to back up from the gate and take off. ....as well as the lack of traffic at the arriving airport.
I hope that the developers ensure that all the special effects are operational....and increase the sound of outside traffic when one is in the cockpit.
Lastly, when flying on line within the simulator's AI traffic, i make sure to have generic traffic OFF in the traffic settings. This seems to help....and I hope Just Flight clarifies the correct settings for Traffic when one chooses to fly with the On Line AI Traffic settings provided by Osobo.
Hope to see and update soon....and I do agree with others....that as an early purchaser I would have expected these issues among others to have been caught in Beta testing.
@cadum I did the very same flight from London City to Heathrow and got the same deserted Heathrow on arrival. I did it a couple of times trying to work out what was wrong and fix it, I failed miserably to fix it. This was on the new updated installer too. ironically the old one worked fine, this fixing one broke it for me.
Its infuriating that there are so many issues with this release. People just want it to work as it should, simply, easily............just work -
Asking out of curiosity. For those of you who have issues with no traffic; are you using JF Traffic’s timetables, or are you using MSFS Live Traffic, but with the JFTraffic AI aircraft models? I’m curious to know if there are still no traffic issues when using MS Live Traffic over JF timetables.
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Same problem since day one; The update didn't change anything (and I think it was not supposed to do it).
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@johng1
I did another flight...this time from one Australian airport to another. This time I waited till I was en route to my destination before inputting by destination airport code.
To my surprise traffic appeared at my arrival airport as well as a good number of parked aircraft...my initial conclusion is that we need to be reasonably into our route before input of the arrival airport codeI was doing it on the runway as part of takeoff procedure...so..I will test more to see if this is the reason for having had no traffic upon arrival.
@cadum
Just did a flight from KIAD to KDCA, less than 50 mile trip.No traffic when I arrived at KDCA...made sure to set the destination airport while in flight.
So....as of this moment, the best I can say...is that arrival traffic works maybe sometimes, maybe dependent on arrival airport.
I have used in this last flight two busy airports for the current time of day and day of the week....so I have no clue why this can't consistantly work as intended.
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I have the same issue as reported here. I've also noticed that sometimes, when you arrive at the destination airport, the default MSFS airport is shown, and any payware / freeware airport doesn't show. I had this flying into WSSS and KPHL. Not sure if anyone else has seen this issue ?
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I’m not sure if it’s related, but I’ve just spent 15-30 minutes at the following airports watching traffic in the airport
EGLL
KMCI
KJFK
EGBB
EGCCPlenty of departures, but arrivals. Not one. I waited at each airport between 15-30 minutes.
I’m really at a loss about this. There seems to be an issue with aircraft arriving at departure airports and the population of aircraft at the destination airport.
Do aircraft spawn in on a journey, or do they have to actually depart from their departure airport and fly the whole route before they arrive where I am? If they spawn in mid-flight, how far out do they spawn?
I don’t think I had this frustration before the cough fix.
I hate to say this, but I’m going to have to go back to Simple Traffic. It has its flaws but at least it works. 😔
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I’m not sure if it’s related, but I’ve just spent 15-30 minutes at the following airports watching traffic in the airport
EGLL
KMCI
KJFK
EGBB
EGCCPlenty of departures, but arrivals. Not one. I waited at each airport between 15-30 minutes.
I’m really at a loss about this. There seems to be an issue with aircraft arriving at departure airports and the population of aircraft at the destination airport.
Do aircraft spawn in on a journey, or do they have to actually depart from their departure airport and fly the whole route before they arrive where I am? If they spawn in mid-flight, how far out do they spawn?
I don’t think I had this frustration before the cough fix.
I hate to say this, but I’m going to have to go back to Simple Traffic. It has its flaws but at least it works. 😔
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I’ve just read something very interesting in the manual.
The Time Before Departure Value (Mins) option controls how long before departure an aircraft will occupy a gate. For example, with this set to 90 minutes, starting a flight at 10am will load in every aircraft that is due to depart from that airport until 11:30am, after which time there will be no further departures. A higher setting here will result in busier airports but may negatively impact performance.
This is saying to me that if I spawn in at an airport at 1000, with my TBDv set to 90 minutes, then every aircraft due to depart between 1000 and 1130 will spawn in. But once those aircraft have departed that’s it. You’ll get no more aircraft spawning in. Effectively your departure airport will empty.
But what about in-coming aircraft? How does the TBDv affect them? After a certain period of time will landings also cease to occur? When do aircraft at my destination spawn in? At the same time as those at my departure airport? If so, and my journey is longer than 90 minutes, can I expect all the aircraft at my destination to have departed before I get there, leaving me with an empty destination airport?
Wow, my head hurts! 😔
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I’ve just read something very interesting in the manual.
The Time Before Departure Value (Mins) option controls how long before departure an aircraft will occupy a gate. For example, with this set to 90 minutes, starting a flight at 10am will load in every aircraft that is due to depart from that airport until 11:30am, after which time there will be no further departures. A higher setting here will result in busier airports but may negatively impact performance.
This is saying to me that if I spawn in at an airport at 1000, with my TBDv set to 90 minutes, then every aircraft due to depart between 1000 and 1130 will spawn in. But once those aircraft have departed that’s it. You’ll get no more aircraft spawning in. Effectively your departure airport will empty.
But what about in-coming aircraft? How does the TBDv affect them? After a certain period of time will landings also cease to occur? When do aircraft at my destination spawn in? At the same time as those at my departure airport? If so, and my journey is longer than 90 minutes, can I expect all the aircraft at my destination to have departed before I get there, leaving me with an empty destination airport?
Wow, my head hurts! 😔
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@bpfonteyn and also I dont get the "traffic density setting" in the in-game panel... what is 100% ? percent of what ? how can it be 200% ?
@elpix said in No traffic at arrival airport:
@bpfonteyn and also I dont get the "traffic density setting" in the in-game panel... what is 100% ? percent of what ? how can it be 200% ?
I believe that determines how much traffic spawns in. For example, if you spawn in at ESSA and your Time to Departure value (set in the external Traffic Control Centre programme) is set two 120 minutes, then 100% of the aircraft due to depart in that time will spawn in. However, if you set that traffic density slider to 50%, only half of the aircraft due to depart will spawn in.
Effectively, anything less than 100% will reduce the amount of traffic you’ll see. It’s designed to help those with PCs who may not be powerful enough to play smoothly with all traffic present.
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@elpix said in No traffic at arrival airport:
@bpfonteyn and also I dont get the "traffic density setting" in the in-game panel... what is 100% ? percent of what ? how can it be 200% ?
I believe that determines how much traffic spawns in. For example, if you spawn in at ESSA and your Time to Departure value (set in the external Traffic Control Centre programme) is set two 120 minutes, then 100% of the aircraft due to depart in that time will spawn in. However, if you set that traffic density slider to 50%, only half of the aircraft due to depart will spawn in.
Effectively, anything less than 100% will reduce the amount of traffic you’ll see. It’s designed to help those with PCs who may not be powerful enough to play smoothly with all traffic present.
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@bpfonteyn but in that case, what does 200% mean ? How can you spawn 200% of the scheduled aircraft ? Maybe this setting only applies to cruising traffic ?
@elpix said in No traffic at arrival airport:
@bpfonteyn but in that case, what does 200% mean ? How can you spawn 200% of the scheduled aircraft ? Maybe this setting only applies to cruising traffic ?
Interesting. Yes, perhaps it only applies to aircraft generated around you enroute.
I’m sure JF can shed some light on this.
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@elpix said in No traffic at arrival airport:
@bpfonteyn but in that case, what does 200% mean ? How can you spawn 200% of the scheduled aircraft ? Maybe this setting only applies to cruising traffic ?
Interesting. Yes, perhaps it only applies to aircraft generated around you enroute.
I’m sure JF can shed some light on this.
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@cadum
Just did a flight from KIAD to KDCA, less than 50 mile trip.No traffic when I arrived at KDCA...made sure to set the destination airport while in flight.
So....as of this moment, the best I can say...is that arrival traffic works maybe sometimes, maybe dependent on arrival airport.
I have used in this last flight two busy airports for the current time of day and day of the week....so I have no clue why this can't consistantly work as intended.
@cadum
Well, tried with just FSLTL, works better but FPS was lower.Then tried AI Air Traffic setting, using non generic AI aircraft setting.
Got much better traffic and only one Osobo Generic upon arrival at KDCA.
I could be happy just flying with AI Traffic on....if I could determine how to eliminate all the Osobo pointed nose airliners?
Is it possible to just move those out of their directory....into a temp directory....and I wonder if I did that would the sim then just select the next available models....for example Just Flight FS Traffic and/or FSLTL Models?
