F70/F100 not RVSM certified
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Like the F28, the F70/F100 is not RVSM certified which means it is limited to a ceiling of 28,000 over the US and Canada. I don’t know about the rest of the world. That’s not awful, but Simbrief does love to give it up to its ceiling of 35,000 feet, but legally it’s not supposed to operate within that final 7,000 feet
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Thank you for this information, especially when this aircraft is even a slower climber than the A343.
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In Europe the F70 and 100 are RVSM certified - you can find a lot of flight plans on EDI GLA with a cruising level up to FL 350.
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Like the F28, the F70/F100 is not RVSM certified which means it is limited to a ceiling of 28,000 over the US and Canada. I don’t know about the rest of the world. That’s not awful, but Simbrief does love to give it up to its ceiling of 35,000 feet, but legally it’s not supposed to operate within that final 7,000 feet
That’s an interesting point you brought up. I always thought the Fokker 100 was fully RVSM compliant. From what I recall, back when RVSM was being implemented globally, Fokker issued specific Service Bulletins under ATA 34 to upgrade the Air Data Computers (ADCs) and ensure the Altimetry System Error met the strict tolerances for that airspace. Do you happen to know if there's a specific reason why those ATA 34 retrofits wouldn't qualify it, or if your comment applies to certain older airframes that didn't get the upgrade? I’m genuinely curious to learn more about the technical side of this!
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That’s an interesting point you brought up. I always thought the Fokker 100 was fully RVSM compliant. From what I recall, back when RVSM was being implemented globally, Fokker issued specific Service Bulletins under ATA 34 to upgrade the Air Data Computers (ADCs) and ensure the Altimetry System Error met the strict tolerances for that airspace. Do you happen to know if there's a specific reason why those ATA 34 retrofits wouldn't qualify it, or if your comment applies to certain older airframes that didn't get the upgrade? I’m genuinely curious to learn more about the technical side of this!
@jvtbalds yes, it has subsequently been offered an upgrade and according to Fokker services group it can be given an upgrade to increase the accuracy of its lateral and vertical guidance to ensure compliance. A plane with drift like the F70/F100 like we have here in this package cannot comply with separation regulations accurately enough to be certified. However, it can be upgraded now with electronics to improve its accuracy.
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Thanks for sharing this, I had no clue!
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It was RVSM certified in Europe
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Out of curiosity, what is missing from the equipment list that makes the F70/F100 not RVSM-certified?
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@Alexair I know. Where is the equipment list for the F70/F100 that is notably missing the "W"? There is no knowing if JF have implemented the more precise altitude-measuring equipment or not, is there? At the moment it has 2 independent altimeter systems, automatic altitude hold and altitude alerting, and I believe an appropriate transponder too, and in SimBrief it's already configured as RVSM-certified with the W symbol. A U.K. CAA supplement in 2004 to the F70/F100 MMEL implies that the plane is RVSM-certified by mentioning which systems are required to be operative for RVSM. Other steam-gauge INS planes were/are also capable of operating in RVSM.
That's why I'm asking for a reference or clarification on where the F70/F100 have specifically not been certified for RVSM, or if the rules have changed to require vertical precision that is impossible with the plane's current equipment setup.
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@Alexair I know. Where is the equipment list for the F70/F100 that is notably missing the "W"? There is no knowing if JF have implemented the more precise altitude-measuring equipment or not, is there? At the moment it has 2 independent altimeter systems, automatic altitude hold and altitude alerting, and I believe an appropriate transponder too, and in SimBrief it's already configured as RVSM-certified with the W symbol. A U.K. CAA supplement in 2004 to the F70/F100 MMEL implies that the plane is RVSM-certified by mentioning which systems are required to be operative for RVSM. Other steam-gauge INS planes were/are also capable of operating in RVSM.
That's why I'm asking for a reference or clarification on where the F70/F100 have specifically not been certified for RVSM, or if the rules have changed to require vertical precision that is impossible with the plane's current equipment setup.
