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F70/F100 not RVSM certified

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    Like the F28, the F70/F100 is not RVSM certified which means it is limited to a ceiling of 28,000 over the US and Canada. I don’t know about the rest of the world. That’s not awful, but Simbrief does love to give it up to its ceiling of 35,000 feet, but legally it’s not supposed to operate within that final 7,000 feet

    Brian
    https://www.flyaka.com
    Alaska Adventures

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      Thank you for this information, especially when this aircraft is even a slower climber than the A343.

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        In Europe the F70 and 100 are RVSM certified - you can find a lot of flight plans on EDI GLA with a cruising level up to FL 350.

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          Out of curiosity, what is missing from the equipment list that makes the F70/F100 not RVSM-certified?

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            Like the F28, the F70/F100 is not RVSM certified which means it is limited to a ceiling of 28,000 over the US and Canada. I don’t know about the rest of the world. That’s not awful, but Simbrief does love to give it up to its ceiling of 35,000 feet, but legally it’s not supposed to operate within that final 7,000 feet

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            @dadgametime

            That’s an interesting point you brought up. I always thought the Fokker 100 was fully RVSM compliant. From what I recall, back when RVSM was being implemented globally, Fokker issued specific Service Bulletins under ATA 34 to upgrade the Air Data Computers (ADCs) and ensure the Altimetry System Error met the strict tolerances for that airspace. Do you happen to know if there's a specific reason why those ATA 34 retrofits wouldn't qualify it, or if your comment applies to certain older airframes that didn't get the upgrade? I’m genuinely curious to learn more about the technical side of this!

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              @dadgametime

              That’s an interesting point you brought up. I always thought the Fokker 100 was fully RVSM compliant. From what I recall, back when RVSM was being implemented globally, Fokker issued specific Service Bulletins under ATA 34 to upgrade the Air Data Computers (ADCs) and ensure the Altimetry System Error met the strict tolerances for that airspace. Do you happen to know if there's a specific reason why those ATA 34 retrofits wouldn't qualify it, or if your comment applies to certain older airframes that didn't get the upgrade? I’m genuinely curious to learn more about the technical side of this!

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              @jvtbalds yes, it has subsequently been offered an upgrade and according to Fokker services group it can be given an upgrade to increase the accuracy of its lateral and vertical guidance to ensure compliance. A plane with drift like the F70/F100 like we have here in this package cannot comply with separation regulations accurately enough to be certified. However, it can be upgraded now with electronics to improve its accuracy.

              Brian
              https://www.flyaka.com
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