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Can I reduce the rumbeling engin sounds?

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    @rlaycock

    Hi Bob! This post is just for my curiosity and for friendly conversation πŸ™‚ I don't intend to further frustrate Nick with conflicting feedback. You see, I was definitely one of the "complainers" about the 1.1 sounds. The quality of sound design that we are now able to achieve in MSFS is unbelievable, so much better than any flightsim before. But as a result, users are becoming more particular, and I see wars of opinion about sound playing out in the community that are more vigorous than before. I've become very curious about how different people perceive airplane sounds in MSFS, and how they develop their preferences.

    With that said, how would you characterize the "rumbling" sound you're talking about? To my ear, Boris really amped up the bass, the overall drama in the sound update that came with 1.1, so I would say there is even more rumbling than before. The problem that myself and others complained about was a new prop sound playing in the cockpit that seemed like an external sound...a buzzing of the prop, that was playing inside. And that's just not something you hear in a single-engine turboprop, for various reasons that I could explain (but will hold off for now).

    As a point of comparison, how do you like the sounds of the default MSFS Caravan?

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    @C525B And I just want to be clear that my comment above was not directed at you (or anyone in particular), lest there be any ambiguity πŸ™‚ I've seen your name around here for quite a while, so I know that your questions and commentary always come from the right place. In fact, your line of questioning here is very precise, and could lead to interesting data. I'm sure if I can act upon it with as much precision, but I will look forward to any responses.

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      @C525B And I just want to be clear that my comment above was not directed at you (or anyone in particular), lest there be any ambiguity πŸ™‚ I've seen your name around here for quite a while, so I know that your questions and commentary always come from the right place. In fact, your line of questioning here is very precise, and could lead to interesting data. I'm sure if I can act upon it with as much precision, but I will look forward to any responses.

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      @Black-Square No, of course not, I never took it that way! As I said, I am genuinely curious about this. I have a real flying background in corporate aircraft and have also been into flightsim sound design for a while. Sound adds a guttural, immersive aspect to flightsim. I'm just excited about the current state of the art, although I also have some strongly-held opinions.

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        If I remember correctly, Boris has said there will be some further refinement in the next patch.

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          Hi @C525B
          Overall I think the Caravan sounds are great. However for me (I think its probably a personal preference) I am just not a fan of the low down rumbling sounds. I think it is as you mentioned the bass has been amped up. (I actual tried reducing the bass on my speakers but it did not seam to make a difference). Please note its not a major issue for me as I am totally enjoying the Black Square Craven. I just somehow wish I could hear the propeller whine a little more over the rumbling sound (I believe the rumbling is simulating the actual engine rumble?).

          Best wishes.
          Bob

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            @MiRexer You're probably using legacy interaction mode, which uses mouse clicks to the left or the right of the clickspot instead. Let me know if you have a chance to give it a try. You should see rotating arrow cursors when you're in the right spot.

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            @Black-Square said in Can I reduce the rumbeling engin sounds?:

            @MiRexer You're probably using legacy interaction mode, which uses mouse clicks to the left or the right of the clickspot instead. Let me know if you have a chance to give it a try. You should see rotating arrow cursors when you're in the right spot.

            I also use Legacy mode and just loaded the Cargomaster to look. I can't find the left/right arrow clickspots anywhere around the headphone jack with the headphones plugged in, either.

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              Hi @C525B
              Overall I think the Caravan sounds are great. However for me (I think its probably a personal preference) I am just not a fan of the low down rumbling sounds. I think it is as you mentioned the bass has been amped up. (I actual tried reducing the bass on my speakers but it did not seam to make a difference). Please note its not a major issue for me as I am totally enjoying the Black Square Craven. I just somehow wish I could hear the propeller whine a little more over the rumbling sound (I believe the rumbling is simulating the actual engine rumble?).

              Best wishes.
              Bob

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              @rlaycock

              Makes sense! Do your speakers have a subwoofer?

              I use a set of headphones (Sony WH-1000XM3) that have a slightly better bass response than studio monitors, but not quite as much as something like Bose or other gaming headphones.

              I used to game with a set of Sennheiser studio headphones that had a very flat EQ, but when I wanted to go Bluetooth, I found that the Sony’s were just a little touch heavier the low end, without going overboard, like a lot of consumer headphones do. Seemed like the right fit for me.

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              • M MiRexer

                @Black-Square FYI - since the 1.1 update the scrolling up down to change the noise cancelling volume doesn't appear to work (at least for me). Plugging the headphones in works, just can't adjust it.

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                @MiRexer
                The Cursor does not change for me as well, anyhow if I am using the mouse wheele while I am over the plugin spot I can adjust the volume.

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                  @MiRexer
                  The Cursor does not change for me as well, anyhow if I am using the mouse wheele while I am over the plugin spot I can adjust the volume.

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                  @RealPax said in Can I reduce the rumbeling engin sounds?:

                  @MiRexer
                  The Cursor does not change for me as well, anyhow if I am using the mouse wheele while I am over the plugin spot I can adjust the volume.

                  You must be in Lock mode then, which would not have the increase/decrease cursors. Legacy mode does not use the scroll wheel.

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                    @RealPax said in Can I reduce the rumbeling engin sounds?:

                    @MiRexer
                    The Cursor does not change for me as well, anyhow if I am using the mouse wheele while I am over the plugin spot I can adjust the volume.

                    You must be in Lock mode then, which would not have the increase/decrease cursors. Legacy mode does not use the scroll wheel.

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                    @jmarkows
                    Ahhh you are right, sorry for the confusion.

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                      I am in legacy mode but I looked everywhere around the headphone jack and there's no way to turn it up/down there for me. It does work in lock mode. I just recently changed to legacy when you mentioned getting rid of the blue highlight. Man I wish we could just turn off the highlight. There's good stuff in each of those modes - and things that suck in both lol.

                      I hovered all around the headphone jack both in VR and 2d in legacy mode and it never changes anything else and any click just unplugs the headphones. This doesn't seem to be Caravan specific either - I have all the tooltips etc turned off so maybe it's that. I'll have to play with some of the other settings.

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                        I am in legacy mode but I looked everywhere around the headphone jack and there's no way to turn it up/down there for me. It does work in lock mode. I just recently changed to legacy when you mentioned getting rid of the blue highlight. Man I wish we could just turn off the highlight. There's good stuff in each of those modes - and things that suck in both lol.

                        I hovered all around the headphone jack both in VR and 2d in legacy mode and it never changes anything else and any click just unplugs the headphones. This doesn't seem to be Caravan specific either - I have all the tooltips etc turned off so maybe it's that. I'll have to play with some of the other settings.

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                        @MiRexer I could not find it either last night. I didn't install 1.0 to know if it was present then.

                        If you like Lock mode but not the highlight, I believe there's a mod on fs.to to remove it.

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                          The one on flightsim seems to have been taken down. A2a has one that came with the Aerostar but it doesn't seem to work any more either. I'm guessing Asobo broke it with SU4.

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