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Flying without an HSI

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    Zacke
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    Thanks a lot for the exceptional explanations. Got that completely! 😉

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      @Black-Square would you consider adding an optional HSI such as the KI 525A?

      An HSI would absolutely make the Commander one of my fav Black Square aircraft. Sadly, it's been rusting in my virtual hangar since purchase. I simply cannot convince myself to fly it, so much so that I somewhat regret I purchased it. 😞

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        MatzeH84
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        Just my personal opinion, while a HSI certainly makes life easier, I really enjoy the Commander not having one.
        It's more demanding to combine different instrument sources to get a mental picture for sure, but I find it more rewarding to fly it this way.

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          Yep totally agree. It is actually nice to have an aircraft that is a bit different and not with all the bells n whistles

          https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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            Agreed, the Commander is really nice to fly as it is. No GPS, just old school navigation. Love it.

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              And what's wrong with an OPTIONAL HSI - just like other options we already have?

              You love it as it is. I don't love it.

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                Thats a shame. There is so much to love about the 114 with or without an HSI. Most GA aircraft I own have an HSI and to be honest I really dont notice not having one as all the sources of info you need are there. But we all have our own likes and dislikes. Thats the fun of it.

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                • G Gatlingorange

                  After having many hours in the A2A Comanche 250 I'm now committing to the Commander 114. In the Piper I got accustomed to using my HSI needle to fly circuits. It made me able to turn various legs with precision, and keeping me on track for most of them. I also find it very useful for my spatial awareness when looking for a field.

                  Any tips for doing such a thing with the Commander it's avionics? How do you guys do this without just looking at the field? I tried the heading bug but it's not as visible.

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                  @Gatlingorange said in Flying without an HSI:

                  Any tips for doing such a thing with the Commander it's avionics? How do you guys do this without just looking at the field? I tried the heading bug but it's not as visible.

                  I'll set the heading bug to the runway heading. It's not as visible as an HSI but it gets the job done well enough for pattern work.

                  Another thing I'll do on the GNS 530 for visual approaches is I'll switch the CDI to VLOC mode and then enable OBS mode, set the runway heading on the NAV1 CDI. That gets you a magenta line to follow right to the field. If you key in an approach procedure for the particular runway, then Direct To to the RW waypoint, it'll be even more precise but for most airfields, I won't even bother.

                  For extra credit, set one of the display fields to the Cross Track Error (XTK) and you'll get a read out of exactly how far you are from the field on your downwind leg in NM.

                  If you fly using the GNS 750 it's an absolute cake since it has built in visual approaches.

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                    er... GTN 750. bleh... that fancy thing

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                      I have the TDS GTNXi and it is usually in my cockpits. Not used it once in the Commander yet as just feels so freeing without it lol

                      https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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