Altitude Programmer: Baro setting issue and a question

djd565

When I have "Control ALT SEL with Hardware Events" true, I cannot manually change the programmer baro setting. I have not established bindings for this but would prefer to just use the mouse for that portion. (the "B" key works, but I don't like using it since I often am referencing a provided altimeter setting, not necessarily local sim pressure)

I have been keeping that setting False and just using mouse for it all so far because of this.

Question: Is there a prescribed workflow in the manual for changing the Programmers baro setting? It seems I need to disconnect ALT hold or else I get wild changes in trim as, for instance, I change from 30.0 to 29.9. Pulling the ALT SEL breaker doesn't prevent this (I thought it might be a handy workaround).

Black Square

@djd565 So, you're looking for a separate Control BARO SET with Hardware Events toggles? Do I understand correctly? Yes, that's also what I do. For any significant baro change, I press the altitude hold button, and then reengage after inputting the new baro setting.

djd565

@Black-Square
My preference would be to use the mouse for the programmer’s Baro while keeping the hardware events for its Altitude and Vertical Speed.

If that’s not possible then I’ll have to set up hardware to control the Baro on there.

Thanks for the feedback on the procedure, that will be my plan then— it’s just a quirky bit of hardware.

SadBucket

@Black-Square I know I already mentioned this in another post. but on the topic of the alt selector (and only in case you missed it), If it's not too much trouble to reverse the mouse scroll direction on the dials so it scrolls in the same direction as the mouse wheel I would really appreciate it...

Black Square

@SadBucket I knew this would come up, so I tried it both ways myself, switching back and forth probably four or five times over months. I feel that there was a reason I settled on this direction after that many tries. If you would like, you can edit the file locally, so you can have exactly what you're looking for. If you search in Commander114_INT.XML for ALTITUDE_SELECTOR, just swap the code in the CLOCKWISE_CODE and ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE tags for each of the thumbwheels. Let me know if you need any help.

SadBucket

will do! Thank you

SadBucket

@Black-Square Swap worked, thank you!

			<Component ID="ALTITUDE_SELECTOR">
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob1_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob1_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob1_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob1_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob1</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob1</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<ANIM_WRAP>TRUE</ANIM_WRAP>
						<WRAP>TRUE</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_10, number) 10 * </ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_10, number) ++ d 9 &gt; if{ 10 - } (&gt;L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_10, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_10, number) -- d 0 &lt; if{ 10 + } (&gt;L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_10, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>10</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>AP Baro</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob2_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob2_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob2_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob2_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob2</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob2</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<ANIM_WRAP>TRUE</ANIM_WRAP>
						<WRAP>TRUE</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_1, number) 10 * </ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_1, number) ++ d 9 &gt; if{ 10 - } (&gt;L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_1, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_1, number) -- d 0 &lt; if{ 10 + } (&gt;L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_1, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>10</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>AP Baro</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob3_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob3_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob3_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob3_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob3</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorBaroKnob3</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<ANIM_WRAP>TRUE</ANIM_WRAP>
						<WRAP>TRUE</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_01, number) 10 * </ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_01, number) ++ d 9 &gt; if{ 10 - } (&gt;L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_01, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_01, number) -- d 0 &lt; if{ 10 + } (&gt;L:var_AutopilotBaroCalibration_01, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>10</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>AP Baro</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorAltKnob1_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorAltKnob1_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob1_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob1_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob1</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob1</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<ANIM_WRAP>TRUE</ANIM_WRAP>
						<WRAP>TRUE</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_PreselectedAltitude_10000, number) 10 * </ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedAltitude_10000, number) ++ d 9 &gt; if{ 10 - } (&gt;L:var_PreselectedAltitude_10000, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedAltitude_10000, number) -- d 0 &lt; if{ 10 + } (&gt;L:var_PreselectedAltitude_10000, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>10</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>Selected ALT</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorAltKnob2_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorAltKnob2_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob2_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob2_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob2</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob2</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<ANIM_WRAP>TRUE</ANIM_WRAP>
						<WRAP>TRUE</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_PreselectedAltitude_1000, number) 10 * </ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedAltitude_1000, number) ++ d 9 &gt; if{ 10 - } (&gt;L:var_PreselectedAltitude_1000, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedAltitude_1000, number) -- d 0 &lt; if{ 10 + } (&gt;L:var_PreselectedAltitude_1000, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>10</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>AP Baro</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorAltKnob3_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorAltKnob3_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob3_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob3_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob3</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorAltKnob3</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<ANIM_WRAP>TRUE</ANIM_WRAP>
						<WRAP>TRUE</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_PreselectedAltitude_100, number) 10 * </ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedAltitude_100, number) ++ d 9 &gt; if{ 10 - } (&gt;L:var_PreselectedAltitude_100, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedAltitude_100, number) -- d 0 &lt; if{ 10 + } (&gt;L:var_PreselectedAltitude_100, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>10</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>AP Baro</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>
				<Component ID="AltitudeSelectorVsKnob_Clickspot" NODE="AltitudeSelectorVsKnob_Clickspot">
					<UseTemplate Name="ASOBO_GT_Knob_Finite_Code">
						<NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorVsKnob_Clickspot</NODE_ID>
						<PART_ID>AltitudeSelectorVsKnob_Clickspot</PART_ID>
						<ANIM_NAME>AltitudeSelectorVsKnob</ANIM_NAME>
						<HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>AltitudeSelectorVsKnob</HIGHLIGHT_NODE_ID>
						<WRAP>False</WRAP>
						<ANIM_CODE>(L:var_PreselectedVerticalSpeed, number) 32 / 100 * 50 +</ANIM_CODE>
						<ANIMCURSOR_DIR>-1.0</ANIMCURSOR_DIR>
						<CLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedVerticalSpeed, number) 2 +  16 min (&gt;L:var_PreselectedVerticalSpeed, number) }</CLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>(L:BKSQ_HardwareApControl, bool) ! if{ (L:var_PreselectedVerticalSpeed, number) 2 - -16 max (&gt;L:var_PreselectedVerticalSpeed, number) }</ANTICLOCKWISE_CODE>
						<COUNT>16</COUNT>
						<ANIM_LAG>300</ANIM_LAG>
						<WWISE_EVENT>bksq_warrior_kx155_small_knob</WWISE_EVENT>
						<TOOLTIP_TITLE/>
						<TOOLTIPID>Selected VS</TOOLTIPID>
					</UseTemplate>
				</Component>

Black Square

@SadBucket Glad to hear it! Sorry that I can't offer an option in that tablet for every user preference. It makes me sad, but I'm always trying to do my best with those decisions.

SadBucket

@Black-Square I'm happy to make little tweaks like this on my own, I just always assume it's way harder to do lol