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TQ6+ and the reverse detent

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    Hi!

    If there's one thing I miss from XPlane its the axis configuration...

    I have a VirtualFly TQ6+, yes I'm spoiled. But maybe not in this case. It's a 6 lever TPM module with fixed detents. Behind that detent is a little bit of axis, maybe 10% or so.

    In the Caravan when I come back past the detent, it goes in to reverse a little tiny bit and no more. The first 15% of the FORWARD axis is used for Beta and I get that, that's all cool. I just get a bit of a dead reverser. It's hard to describe so hopefully that makes sense.

    Any ideas gratefully received!.

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      Hi!

      If there's one thing I miss from XPlane its the axis configuration...

      I have a VirtualFly TQ6+, yes I'm spoiled. But maybe not in this case. It's a 6 lever TPM module with fixed detents. Behind that detent is a little bit of axis, maybe 10% or so.

      In the Caravan when I come back past the detent, it goes in to reverse a little tiny bit and no more. The first 15% of the FORWARD axis is used for Beta and I get that, that's all cool. I just get a bit of a dead reverser. It's hard to describe so hopefully that makes sense.

      Any ideas gratefully received!.

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      RPGamerous
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      @Jiblet For what it's worth, I just discovered this is also the case with my HC Bravo. The culprit may be the curve I've applied to match beta with the detent notch on the King Air addon handles I use. Unfortunately I don't have time to test it until tomorrow (maybe), but I wanted to let you know you're not alone in this.

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        brettsan
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        I have the same throttles. And while they are good, I find that they cause more issues with configuration then they are worth. I am still trying to find that balance between VFHUB configuration and MSFS configuration. However, I don't think either are really going to work. I already opened a ticket with VF, but the only reply I got was for someone else's ticket. Not exactly impressed.

        I might try and learn mobi-flight as I don't own axis and o's. Will update if I make any headway.

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          Another TQ6+ user here. They work really well for me. If at all, the 208 goes too hard into beta when I use it after touchdown.

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            Another TQ6+ user here. They work really well for me. If at all, the 208 goes too hard into beta when I use it after touchdown.

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            @qqwertzde said in TQ6+ and the reverse detent:

            Another TQ6+ user here. They work really well for me. If at all, the 208 goes too hard into beta when I use it after touchdown.

            So do you get full travel through the reverse portion of the throttle?
            I can pull my TQ6 all the way back through the detent and the caravan will juuuuust come in to reverse a little way.

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              Throttle

              I managed to assign Power + beta + reverse to one of the TQ6 throttle lever in FS24 as follows:

              • I don't use VFHub because it doesn't allow me to adjust the sensitivity curves.
              • In the MSFS settings, I assign the command Throttle 1 (0 to 100%) to the lever that you wish.
              • Important, you should invert the axis you have assigned to that command.
              • In the option hardware settings of the TQ6 (inside msfs config) I select the lever I assigned that command to and set the NEUTRAL value to 0.9.

              This way, the TQ6 detent becomes the Caravan's IDLE detent, and the TQ6's reverse section is used for BETA and for reverse when I move the lever to its lowest point.

              Prop

              For the prop lever, I haven't been able to match the detent to correctly simulate feathering, since I haven't found a command similar to the throttle one (0–100%).

              Condition lever

              I matched the TQ6 detent to low idle:

              • Assign the Condition lever command to the TQ6 lever you want.
              • Like with the throttle lever, set the NEUTRAL value to 0.45 for the condition lever.

              Flaps

              Flaps have 4 positions (up, 10°, 20° and full), so it's not possible to map them with our axes that only have 3. As with the previous axes, there are ways to make three of those positions work, but it wouldn't be realistic, so I prefer to use keyboard assignments.

              Emergency power

              For this option I haven't yet investigated the command needed to assign it to one of the axes. I don't know if a command for it even exists.

              I hope it helps.
              Regards

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                Throttle

                I managed to assign Power + beta + reverse to one of the TQ6 throttle lever in FS24 as follows:

                • I don't use VFHub because it doesn't allow me to adjust the sensitivity curves.
                • In the MSFS settings, I assign the command Throttle 1 (0 to 100%) to the lever that you wish.
                • Important, you should invert the axis you have assigned to that command.
                • In the option hardware settings of the TQ6 (inside msfs config) I select the lever I assigned that command to and set the NEUTRAL value to 0.9.

                This way, the TQ6 detent becomes the Caravan's IDLE detent, and the TQ6's reverse section is used for BETA and for reverse when I move the lever to its lowest point.

                Prop

                For the prop lever, I haven't been able to match the detent to correctly simulate feathering, since I haven't found a command similar to the throttle one (0–100%).

                Condition lever

                I matched the TQ6 detent to low idle:

                • Assign the Condition lever command to the TQ6 lever you want.
                • Like with the throttle lever, set the NEUTRAL value to 0.45 for the condition lever.

                Flaps

                Flaps have 4 positions (up, 10°, 20° and full), so it's not possible to map them with our axes that only have 3. As with the previous axes, there are ways to make three of those positions work, but it wouldn't be realistic, so I prefer to use keyboard assignments.

                Emergency power

                For this option I haven't yet investigated the command needed to assign it to one of the axes. I don't know if a command for it even exists.

                I hope it helps.
                Regards

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                regis9
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                @Chotter That setup worked perfectly for me, thank you! I’ve never messed around with the neutral settings before, will have to look at this for my other turboprop throttle settings.

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                  @qqwertzde said in TQ6+ and the reverse detent:

                  Another TQ6+ user here. They work really well for me. If at all, the 208 goes too hard into beta when I use it after touchdown.

                  So do you get full travel through the reverse portion of the throttle?
                  I can pull my TQ6 all the way back through the detent and the caravan will juuuuust come in to reverse a little way.

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                  @Jiblet said in TQ6+ and the reverse detent:

                  @qqwertzde said in TQ6+ and the reverse detent:

                  Another TQ6+ user here. They work really well for me. If at all, the 208 goes too hard into beta when I use it after touchdown.

                  So do you get full travel through the reverse portion of the throttle?
                  I can pull my TQ6 all the way back through the detent and the caravan will juuuuust come in to reverse a little way.

                  I just realize that I never looked down on the throttle lever during landing, so I can't even tell if the levers in the VC go all the way back. However, I believe so since I get a very strong deceleration effect. And that's what I care about in that moment 🙂

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