Autopilot After SIM Update 14
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Hi
@Black-Square
I've been plagued by this issue ever since I bought the BS Analog King Air 350i (over a month ago). Unfortunately the fix you suggested does not solve the problem. I made the code change, however when I load the aircraft the GNS530 flight plan is still empty and the A/P does not work. So frustrating!
A few things I did notice:- The GPS configuration is not maintained between flights. When I start a flight it will always display the CTL-22 and I have to manually switch to the GNS530.
- When switching to the GTN750 - all is working great.
- Sometime, if I load an aircraft with a working WT530 and then switch to BS King Air the GPS will work, but sometimes it won't. I was unable to determine exactly when.
Is anything something special about the analog King Air GNS530?
Thanks
Al -
Sorry to hear that you've been having issues. We have not received any reports of issues with the King Air, and I just testing everything out on my end, so we should be able to find a solution for whatever is bothering you.
There is nothing special about the KA with respect to its autopilot. The flight plan not loading from the native flight planner is a Working Title problem, btw. I've asked them to fix it in a future update.
While I have some reports of state saving being less reliable on some systems (possibly due to anti-virus software), I recently discovered a code remnant in the TDS GTN was causing just the radio configuration to revert. I believe the new version that fixes this is currently live, if you have the TDS product.
Getting to your autopilot issue, if you're only seeing the issue with the GNS 530, then it's most likely related to the bug discussed on this page. Working Title's update to the GNS with Sim Update 15 (live in two weeks), should fix this. In the meantime, I'm happy to help you troubleshoot. If you're sure that you made the modifications correctly, perhaps you could describe how exactly your autopilot is not working? That might give me a hint as to what's going on. Thank you!
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Hi @Black-Square
My bad... I thought that the FP not loading was also part of the A/P issue so when it failed I assumed the A/P will not work as well.
I tried again, entered the FP manually and, surprise surprise, the A/P is working perfectly.
Thanks for all your efforts. Truly appreciate it. If only I'd found this thread sooner...
Al -
No worries! Sorry for your wasted time. I can't believe that it's taken Working Title almost four months to fix this breaking change. They have been kind and accommodating towards me, and I understand that they now work under the constraints set by Asobo. I apologize nonetheless. Sorry about the flight plan loading issue. I will keep this thread updated if I hear anything about the modifications that I have provided them with for the GNS. Hopefully they will be implemented sometime soon, but I was told not to promise anything. Always happy to help!
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Hi, purchased TBM 850 couple of days ago and I love the plane. It is also an introduction for me to IFR. I was starting to get really desperate that I could not get my AP to work in any mode so far and I though I am just really dumb, until I learned its a bug. I changed the code lines in WT530B.js but it doesnt seem to fixed the bug. The only way I can keep the 530 working properly is if one of the avionics is set to 750 or KX155. I am surprised they take over 3 months to fix this.
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Hello. I was having issues with my GNS 530 not working. I installed the code as suggested above and this corrected the problem, although another issue has come up. I was about 1/2 into a 1 hour flight flying happily along the GPS flight plan when the aircraft suddenly went into a deep nosedive and crashed. Is this a known problem with a fix?
MSFS, C208 Caravan, BS analogue version, Windows 10/64.
Thanks for any help.
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Hi, purchased TBM 850 couple of days ago and I love the plane. It is also an introduction for me to IFR. I was starting to get really desperate that I could not get my AP to work in any mode so far and I though I am just really dumb, until I learned its a bug. I changed the code lines in WT530B.js but it doesnt seem to fixed the bug. The only way I can keep the 530 working properly is if one of the avionics is set to 750 or KX155. I am surprised they take over 3 months to fix this.
@defcry Sorry to hear that you were frustrated before learning of this bug. Trust me, I am as disappointed with the time it took to fix this as you are. Sim Update 15 should be out by the end of this month, which should fix the issue with the WT GNS 530.
In the meantime, the code fix you implemented should absolutely fix this problem, so either you made the edit incorrectly (sorry that I declined to publish my own version of that file for the reasons discussed above), or there is another GPS addon in your community folder that is causing the conflict. The fastest way to rule this out would be just to temporarily remove everything from your community folder and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, then we can narrow down which addon is out-of-date, or not necessary.
I'm here to help! Let me know how it goes.
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Hello. I was having issues with my GNS 530 not working. I installed the code as suggested above and this corrected the problem, although another issue has come up. I was about 1/2 into a 1 hour flight flying happily along the GPS flight plan when the aircraft suddenly went into a deep nosedive and crashed. Is this a known problem with a fix?
MSFS, C208 Caravan, BS analogue version, Windows 10/64.
Thanks for any help.
@Bigmary I'm glad you were able to fix your GNS problem. This fix will no longer be necessary after SU15, which should be released in two weeks. No, this does not sound like any issue we've ever had reported for any of my aircraft.
I'm happy to help, but that isn't much to go on. Were you able to disengage the autopilot? Did the controls in the cockpit depict a nose-down command, or was it aerodynamic in nature?
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Thanks for the reply. I must admit I was doing something else when the aircraft was flying on AP so I was not watching when it happened. Generator was on and lots of fuel so the engine did not shut down. I will fly this route again so see if the problem recurs, this time we me alert in the cockpit.
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Great question. I installed the update this morning, and the update manager overwrote the files, meaning that no further user action should be necessary. I found that the update did fix the problem, so if you are still having problems after the update, try renaming/removing/deleting the WT530B.js altogether. This will cause the update manager to download the latest version for certain.
Thank you, everyone, for waiting while Working Title sorted this out. Unfortunately, they did not have the resources to incorporate any of my numerous other fixes and improvements for the GNS that I supplied them with in SU15, but there is hope for the next sim update. I will keep you all posted.
@Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
Thank you, everyone, for waiting while Working Title sorted this out. Unfortunately, they did not have the resources to incorporate any of my numerous other fixes and improvements for the GNS that I supplied them with in SU15, but there is hope for the next sim update. I will keep you all posted.
Hi Nick - Just wanted to confirm my understanding of this response. Does the above mean that some of the fixes that were provided a few months back still need to be made manually? I had made all of them at the time ( including the optional ones) and they seemed to have fixed things. However, I haven't flown much lately due to a new, non-simulated puppy who prefers to chew wires rather than watch me fly planes. (Perhaps you could add "maniac cockapoo" to the failure list so others could experience this unpredictable event).
Anyway - are some of the original edits still needed now after SU15?
Thanks!
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@ultradianguy I'm working on it. We'll hopefully have this up as a FAQ as soon as I've actually come up with some wording that makes it understandable without all the surrounding context from these threads.
@jmarkows primarily, but this may also help other people: Quick note from the other thread about your comment reference line numbering; I always recommend that people use Notepad++ for edits such as these (https://notepad-plus-plus.org/) - it's free, recognises many types of code by default and provides colouring and other feedback to show where there are problems in code if you make any mistakes. It also doesn't add command codes, null spaces and other things which Wordpad has an annoying tendency to do.
@Ian-P said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
@ultradianguy I'm working on it. We'll hopefully have this up as a FAQ as soon as I've actually come up with some wording that makes it understandable without all the surrounding context from these threads.
Hi Ian - related to my above question to Nick, if some edits are still needed after the last update, did you end up creating that FAQ? Or maybe it's moot after the update.
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Those are some very amusing circumstances, haha. Thank you for sharing. I have a friend who has recently be plagued by kittens with an affinity for wires as well.
Yes, believe it or not, we are all still waiting for the official fix from Working Title by way of Sim Update 15. As you may have heard, SU15 was supposed to release a week or two ago, but was delayed by Asobo. We don't have a firm date yet, except for "sometime in April".
As soon as SU15 is released, everyone can disregard this thread. Also, anyone on the SU15 Beta can disregard this thread.
Until then, if you are not on the SU15 beta, then all the changes above still need to be applied, unfortunately. I hope that answers your question. Always happy to help.
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Those are some very amusing circumstances, haha. Thank you for sharing. I have a friend who has recently be plagued by kittens with an affinity for wires as well.
Yes, believe it or not, we are all still waiting for the official fix from Working Title by way of Sim Update 15. As you may have heard, SU15 was supposed to release a week or two ago, but was delayed by Asobo. We don't have a firm date yet, except for "sometime in April".
As soon as SU15 is released, everyone can disregard this thread. Also, anyone on the SU15 Beta can disregard this thread.
Until then, if you are not on the SU15 beta, then all the changes above still need to be applied, unfortunately. I hope that answers your question. Always happy to help.
@Black-Square Thanks! I think my question was irrelevant now that I realize the update isn't out yet.
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I'm glad it's working for you guys. Sorry I didn't look into this problem myself even sooner. Trust me, it doesn't benefit me to have broken autopilots in any way, so I'm looking forward to an official fix from Working Title just as much as you are.
@Black-Square
Hello I saw your instructions on how to fix 530 and 430. I’m not very savvy when it comes to this. Can you please be a little more detailed on how to search for update loop? I don’t know how to find that. Thank you. I really want to fix my avionics on all my black square planes -
@michaelvillagran87 I did a little tuto on the msfs forum : https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/released-black-square-advanced-turbine-and-piston-dukes/601041/406?u=nikotin3420
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Thank you so much for making your tutorial, Nico! I've already linked a few users to it, and they've found it very helpful!
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you are welcome, it s always a pleasure to help ! :0)
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