Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta
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@jmarkows Are you also using the SU8 beta? We currently support only SU7 so it'd be good to confirm if this issue is affecting SU7 users too.
As above, it'd also be useful to know your trim control method. I have no issues with trimming for level flight with buttons assigned to trim up/down events, so does this only affect the axis event?
@martyn Yes, I am using SU8.
I have two methods of trim: the wheel on the Logitech Multifunction Panel, which still works tolerably well because of the fine control it gives, and the trim up/down commands on my yoke that cause the wild swings. The wheel on the Logitech isn't an axis I don't think.
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Please try the hotfix: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-2-released-edited-23-2-22
@martyn said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
Please try the hotfix: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-2-released-edited-23-2-22
Will give it a try later today, thanks for getting it uploaded and posted.
Question: what do you mean by "electric trim button is off?" When I use the tab on my yoke for trim up/down I see the button on the VC yoke move, which I assume is the electric trim, but I have no idea how to turn it off.
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@martyn said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
Please try the hotfix: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-2-released-edited-23-2-22
Will give it a try later today, thanks for getting it uploaded and posted.
Question: what do you mean by "electric trim button is off?" When I use the tab on my yoke for trim up/down I see the button on the VC yoke move, which I assume is the electric trim, but I have no idea how to turn it off.
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Please try the hotfix: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-2-released-edited-23-2-22
@martyn said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
Please try the hotfix: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-2-released-edited-23-2-22
Martyn,
Thanks for putting together and releasing the hotfix. The heading bug is how working again, and the pitch trim is definitely better l, though still far more sensitive than it was previously. I'm only adding a little bit, just a tap on the up/down switch, but it has a drastic effect. I don't immediately go flying up or down anymore, but climb attitude and level flight are certainly using far less trim now.
Not sure if that's intentional or not with the new flight model. I'm just used to the old one and I have no experience with the real thing to know either way
Although, I'm having an issue with the heading bug; it used to increment by one with each "click," now it will randomly start jumping by 10 or more and go flying around the DG. It's useable, just annoying, and it didn't happen previously.
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Maybe it's a bit sensitive, but for my part, I'm super happy that I'm finally able to use my Bravo trim wheel and feel like it's actually doing something. haha
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@martyn said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
We can easily remove the acceleration feature.
Thanks very much for that.....MUCH better!
@kc-pilot said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
@martyn said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
We can easily remove the acceleration feature.
Thanks very much for that.....MUCH better!
Is the acceleration removed in the 10.3 installer? The notes don't say one way or the other.
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@kc-pilot said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
@martyn said in Extremly sensitive pitch trim SU8 beta:
We can easily remove the acceleration feature.
Thanks very much for that.....MUCH better!
Is the acceleration removed in the 10.3 installer? The notes don't say one way or the other.
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I've spent a few more hours in the Arrow since the update. I'm not using anywhere near the range of travel with the trim, either forwards or backwards, since SU8 and the 10.3 update as I was before it. It's better than it was immediately after SU8, but it's still pretty sensitive and I'm happy I have the wheel in the Logitech Multi Panel instead of needing to use a trim up/down button.
Is this sill being looked at, or is it in a state you guys are happy with? I freely admit I have no real world flying experience, just the hours I put into the Arrow pre-SU8 as a comparison, but going from a lot of nose down for cruise to being able to blow on the wheel seems like a drastic leap.
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I've spent a few more hours in the Arrow since the update. I'm not using anywhere near the range of travel with the trim, either forwards or backwards, since SU8 and the 10.3 update as I was before it. It's better than it was immediately after SU8, but it's still pretty sensitive and I'm happy I have the wheel in the Logitech Multi Panel instead of needing to use a trim up/down button.
Is this sill being looked at, or is it in a state you guys are happy with? I freely admit I have no real world flying experience, just the hours I put into the Arrow pre-SU8 as a comparison, but going from a lot of nose down for cruise to being able to blow on the wheel seems like a drastic leap.
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@jmarkows I'm using trim up/down buttons and it works very nicely for me.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe using the electric trim (i.e the trim up/down buttons on the yoke) would be the norm in flight in the real Arrow.
@sender46 I have trim up/down on my yoke and I use it for certain things like establishing a climb or leveling off, but I'm watching the actual travel of the trim and I'm barely using any. It's not the "tap the button and get wild swings of +-600fpm" it was right after SU8, it just feels overly effective.
If I hold trim down for a second while leveling off, even backing off some forward pressure I'll still end up descending by a few hundred feet per minute.
In cruise I'm barely using forward of neutral trim, I used to need like half travel.
