PA-38 Tomahawk

@miked176766 I think I have found the problem. I purchased the PA38 Tomahawk on the MSFS 2020 Marketplace and this updated in MSFS 2020 on Friday (20/06/25). This worked fine in MSFS 2020. I ran MSFS 2024 and looked in my Library for the PA38 Tomahawk which still shows as the 2020 version not certified for MSFS 2024. I set this version to install and stream. On running the aircraft it loaded and allowed me to enter the cockpit. I tested for full control movement stick and rudder which both showed full movement. On starting the engine I could only get aileron movement, no elevator or rudder. With this version still set to stream the loss of elevator and rudder is passed on to the PA28’s that are installed as MS 2024 certified. If I then set the PA 38 to disabled the PA 28’s all return to normal rudder and aileron behaviour. My conclusion is that until we have an MSFS 2024 certified copy of the PA38 Tomahawk in the marketplace this problem will persist.

Thanks for reporting this. Yes, it looks like this only occurs when switching from a GPS unit to the "No GPS" option; it shouldn't occur if loading into the aircraft with the "No GPS" selected by default. As you have mentioned, the workaround for now will be to ensure VLOC is selected on the GPS prior to selecting the "No GPS" option. Another workaround will be to select the "No GPS" option on the EFB, then restart the flight so that the "No GPS" option is selected by default. We have logged this on our internal bug tracker, and we will investigate further ahead of the next update to the PA-38 Tomahawk. Mark - Just Flight

Very good, thank you for your quick answer. I was just wondering if I had missed an update

We will be turning our attention to our PA28 and PA38 fleets in the near future and beginning the process of bringing them across to MSFS 2024. We'll be sure to share updates as the process progresses. The current status of the MSFS 2024 compatibility updates for our products can be found here: https://www.justflight.com/articles/just-flight-addons-msfs-2024-compatibility-status Mark - Just Flight

Have you been in touch with Just Flight Support about this problem? There is a link on the website www.justflight.com See: https://www.justflight.com/support

Thanks so much for getting back to me. I know JF is very busy with the new RJ, so I appreciate it. I'll try what you mentioned, not just for the Tomahawk, but for the BkSq mods as well.

Thanks Mark!

Ahh. Fascinating! "not a bug, but a feature" I'm going to have to ask ATC how this is solved. After all, they say to operate transponders on ALT even on ground.

Re: Just purchased. Yoke is turned full right This morning I wanted to see what was causing this. If I use my mouse to turn on the alternator, then the yoke turns to the right.

Thank you for reporting this. We have logged this on our internal bugs tracker for our development team to investigate further. Mark - Just Flight

Mark, Turns out it was the GTN750 needing an update. I came back to report this. Thanks for your reply. Regards, RayM

Mark, Thank you for your reply. I did disable "State Saving" on the EFB as part of trying to fix it within the sim but I did not exit and restarted the flight. I should have thought of that myself but I will keep that in mind if it happens another time.

When you say hardware, do you mean a telephone/personal computer or are you referring to joysticks/pedals etc? If it's the former, are you getting some kind of error message from the website where you are trying to purchase?

Someone mentioned this somewhere...can't remember where I read it... Welcome Menu>Options> General>Misc>Pilot Avatar Settings... Choose the same Avatar for both Pilot and Co-Pilot for your VR! It worked for me when flying in VR...I can move my hat switch right and the co-pilot is always there.... I know longer have to be in landing mode as previously mentioned!

That's great thanks for the quick response. A great little airplane, love it.

@Delta558 That's great, thanks for the reply!