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Rate of turn indicator?

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    I've flown a few IFR flights with the Starship and I'm loving it! Was practicing holds and couldn't find the rate of turn indicator. Anyone know where its displayed? I read through the manual some and couldn't find mention of it there.

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      Under the ND? Page 28 of the manual...That what you're after?
      Cheers
      James

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        Hi James,

        Sorry, no that's the turn coordinator. The rate of turn indicator is used to to make standard rate (2min 360deg) turns.

        On the classic 6 pack setup it would be the small airplane above the turn coordinator.

        rate of turn indicator classic

        On some Garmin displays it's depicted as a magenta arrow extending from the lubber line around the circumference of the HSI in the direction of turn.

        Garmin rate of turn indicator

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          Just searched the manuals. No mention of "rate of turn", or "turn rate."

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            I thought if you just set 25 degrees of bank or whatever and held it you got a standard 2 min turn? Although it reduces with speed? So maybe a bit pointless on the Starship as it's a lot faster than say a 152/172 so it would vary wildy?

            Cheers
            James

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              The rule of thumb I'm aware of is 10% of IAS TAS plus 7 for the bank angle for a rate 1 turn. After 25 degrees, just hold at 25 degrees.

              EDIT: my reference simply said speed, but in the FS Academy course you only fly slower GA where they're about equal anyway 😂

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                I thought if you just set 25 degrees of bank or whatever and held it you got a standard 2 min turn? Although it reduces with speed? So maybe a bit pointless on the Starship as it's a lot faster than say a 152/172 so it would vary wildy?

                Cheers
                James

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                @hughesj2 standard rate one turn is not based on a specific bank angle, as bank angle ≠ turn rate. As jmarkows said, a good rule of thumb is (TAS/10)+7. So for a hold at say 210KTAS, angle of bank should be 28 degrees. If you're flying something very slow (say a 172 flying a hold at 100KTAS) the bank angle needed will be significantly less (17 degrees) as you say.

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