Request - G1000NXI Option For Future Black Square Aircraft In Development
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Speaking of panel retrofits - I did just find out that there is essentially a G1000 retrofit for the Commander 690B, if you did want to offer a glass cockpit option for it. Info here:
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2014/february/pilot/t-twin-commander
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While I have no current plans to add G1000 support to my aircraft, the most likely candidates would be the TBM and the King Air. I will say that I have a future aircraft planned to include glass panel avionics, but I was leaning towards the WT G3X + GNS 750 combo that I have in the velocity, as this more closely resembles the upgrades done to this particular aircraft in the real world.
Since I love seeking the advice of my users, what do you all think of the WT G3X + GNS 750 vs. WT G1000 for a GA aircraft?
@Black-Square I would love the Turbine Duke with the G3X! Although in the real world it would have to be the G600TXi, the G3X is sufficient for the simulator
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While I have no current plans to add G1000 support to my aircraft, the most likely candidates would be the TBM and the King Air. I will say that I have a future aircraft planned to include glass panel avionics, but I was leaning towards the WT G3X + GNS 750 combo that I have in the velocity, as this more closely resembles the upgrades done to this particular aircraft in the real world.
Since I love seeking the advice of my users, what do you all think of the WT G3X + GNS 750 vs. WT G1000 for a GA aircraft?
@Black-Square Maybe I’m the odd one out, but any all glass cockpits would mean no purchase from me.
I’m kind bored by every aircraft looking the same. Analogue cockpits are also what I flew IRL for many years, including Cessna 400 twins, Caranans and King Airs, so I have a huge soft sport for this type of aircraft. I’d be very disappointed if you drifted away from that. Even a GNS530 is a bit to much for me, let alone the GTNs, haha.
I dearly love the King Air (especially the B200
), and secretly hope for an all analogue KLN-90B equipped aircraft, in addition to the fantastic KNS-80.Alternatively, I’d also really like a “semi glass” King Air, with EFIS-85 avionics, including electronic ADI, HSI and the Universal UNS1 FMS. But that’s probably as modern as I go. It certainly has more character and is much more interesting to operate than just another G1000 aircraft.
Again, I’m probably an outlier, but I just think this is very cool
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Thanks for the amazing work.
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While I have no current plans to add G1000 support to my aircraft, the most likely candidates would be the TBM and the King Air. I will say that I have a future aircraft planned to include glass panel avionics, but I was leaning towards the WT G3X + GNS 750 combo that I have in the velocity, as this more closely resembles the upgrades done to this particular aircraft in the real world.
Since I love seeking the advice of my users, what do you all think of the WT G3X + GNS 750 vs. WT G1000 for a GA aircraft?
@Black-Square Yes, PLEASE PLEASE add the G1000 to the TBM 850. This model is my favorite GA aircraft and I've been waiting for the G1000 options as I've built a lot of home cockpit hardware based on this plane for FSX, including the overheads switches, etc., but nothing is available for MSFS. I vote for the G1000 option! I do use your analog 850 and love it, but I prefer the G1000 and would gladly pay for this option if needed.
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Wanted to throw this request in...
It would be absolutely stellar if consideration was made to include a Working Title G1000nxi suite as an option for the upcoming aircraft in development. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the six pack, but if it wasn't too much trouble, I would be willing to pay for an addon in addition that adds the existing working title glass in to the panel of appropriate BSQ addons.
My own personal reasoning for this request is simply to use the BSQ aircraft to keep RL proficiency in the G1000 suite.
Cheers
@Buzz and for those craving a G1000 aircraft, I can say the COWS DA-42 is quite realistic and very underrated. There is also the FSR500 (M500) for higher performance that works well in msfs2024, but I can't stand the flight model on that thing without heavily tweaking sensitivities...
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@Black-Square Yes, PLEASE PLEASE add the G1000 to the TBM 850. This model is my favorite GA aircraft and I've been waiting for the G1000 options as I've built a lot of home cockpit hardware based on this plane for FSX, including the overheads switches, etc., but nothing is available for MSFS. I vote for the G1000 option! I do use your analog 850 and love it, but I prefer the G1000 and would gladly pay for this option if needed.
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@Black-Square Yes, PLEASE PLEASE add the G1000 to the TBM 850. This model is my favorite GA aircraft and I've been waiting for the G1000 options as I've built a lot of home cockpit hardware based on this plane for FSX, including the overheads switches, etc., but nothing is available for MSFS. I vote for the G1000 option! I do use your analog 850 and love it, but I prefer the G1000 and would gladly pay for this option if needed.
Thanks!Perfection
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@Buzz and for those craving a G1000 aircraft, I can say the COWS DA-42 is quite realistic and very underrated. There is also the FSR500 (M500) for higher performance that works well in msfs2024, but I can't stand the flight model on that thing without heavily tweaking sensitivities...
@SadBucket I have like 20 hours in the DA40. Glider with a motor, a bit too slow for a sim model I would be interested in. And the TBM from these guys is too good to consider the FSR.
Cheers!
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While I have no current plans to add G1000 support to my aircraft, the most likely candidates would be the TBM and the King Air. I will say that I have a future aircraft planned to include glass panel avionics, but I was leaning towards the WT G3X + GNS 750 combo that I have in the velocity, as this more closely resembles the upgrades done to this particular aircraft in the real world.
Since I love seeking the advice of my users, what do you all think of the WT G3X + GNS 750 vs. WT G1000 for a GA aircraft?
@Black-Square I would LOVE to see the G3X with the GNS 750 with a modern Autopilot option. I know there is a huge group of simmers that prefer the steam gauges, but I think there are as many who prefer the glass cockpits and for some reason the best mod builders always seem to stick with the old stuff. The touchscreen aspect of the G3X is really helpful, especially in VR. An option would be great! By the way the Bonanza A36TC is my favorite plane. I would love it even more with a G3X!
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@Black-Square I would LOVE to see the G3X with the GNS 750 with a modern Autopilot option. I know there is a huge group of simmers that prefer the steam gauges, but I think there are as many who prefer the glass cockpits and for some reason the best mod builders always seem to stick with the old stuff. The touchscreen aspect of the G3X is really helpful, especially in VR. An option would be great! By the way the Bonanza A36TC is my favorite plane. I would love it even more with a G3X!
@bobhall25 Agreed. I started flying Piper Pilots in real life, which is just a training version of an Archer and it has a G3X, GFC 500 Autopilot, etc. I would love to have it for the sim to practice at home
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@bobhall25 Agreed. I started flying Piper Pilots in real life, which is just a training version of an Archer and it has a G3X, GFC 500 Autopilot, etc. I would love to have it for the sim to practice at home
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@Black-Square The G3X + GTN750/650 stack would be perfect for your lineup of aircraft. It's one of the most common and popular retrofits nowadays, even my cheap flying club has recently upgraded an old C172N to the G3X/GTN.
Personally, if it's not too much to ask for and not too late already, I'd love to see that as an option in addition to the steam gauge variants in your upcoming Bonanza/Baron professional series. One can dream I guess.
@Outermarker Just a heads up that that's a GDU 1060, which is probably part of a G500 (or G600) system. I'd love to see that in the sim altogether as it's a great panel replacement that doesn't have the niche certification requirements of the G1000 and is more flexible than the G3X (especially for multi-engine aircraft. You can basically drop it in any aircraft and get the glass-panel functionality while being a lot more realistic than doing so with a G1000 or G3X.
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@Outermarker Just a heads up that that's a GDU 1060, which is probably part of a G500 (or G600) system. I'd love to see that in the sim altogether as it's a great panel replacement that doesn't have the niche certification requirements of the G1000 and is more flexible than the G3X (especially for multi-engine aircraft. You can basically drop it in any aircraft and get the glass-panel functionality while being a lot more realistic than doing so with a G1000 or G3X.
@Charlie-Foxtrot Oh you're absolutely right, I didn't notice!
In the meantime some community members managed to get the G3X into the Bonanza, but it's not public (yet?).
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@Charlie-Foxtrot Oh you're absolutely right, I didn't notice!
In the meantime some community members managed to get the G3X into the Bonanza, but it's not public (yet?).
@Outermarker Oh that's really cool!
I have a wishlist thread on the main msfs forums asking for a native G500/600 architecture. The G1000 is cool and all, but it's limited to just a handful of airframes - can't just drop it into any plane and be realistic. Same with the G3X - it is certified for the Bo, but wouldn't work for the Baron because it's not multi-engine compatible. That's why the G500/600 would be perfect. You could drop it into just about anything and connect it to a GNS or GTN, and still have a lot of the familiar Garmin functionality of the G1000/G3X.
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As much as I hate to say this, we need Black Square level fidelity with G1000s. I’m not a computer programmer or anything but with all of the sim hardware G1000’s on the market right now, It is a detriment to the product and the flight sim community not to have this included as an option. You can now buy 2 units from moza for under $1000. I really think the King Air Professional would be awesome to have this included along with several other avionics packages like EFIS 85, and the everything else you always include with the round gauges. Variations are what make a Black Square aircraft a Black Square aircraft and with the excellent foundation we have from WT in the base sim, I think it is a huge miss not to provide G1000 functionality with your products. I think the Caravan, Baron, and TBM (with a new sound pack of course) would be great to eventually have G1000s added and I personally would pay for this as an expansion for certain reasons. I am seriously considering building out a King Air G1000 home cockpit with a custom big middle screen and one of those RSG input keypads. I much prefer the look of the legacy King Air’s but from a Home Cockpit builders perspective and for IRL reasons. It is significantly easier to go the Garmin route. I am begging you Nick!! I want to add this final note. Avionics options are the identity of Black Square. Unless it is a paid expansion to add G1000’s (cough cough) to existing aircraft still give us the option to have the round gauges and other avionics we normally have moving forward along with potential WT Garmin integration.
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As much as I hate to say this, we need Black Square level fidelity with G1000s. I’m not a computer programmer or anything but with all of the sim hardware G1000’s on the market right now, It is a detriment to the product and the flight sim community not to have this included as an option. You can now buy 2 units from moza for under $1000. I really think the King Air Professional would be awesome to have this included along with several other avionics packages like EFIS 85, and the everything else you always include with the round gauges. Variations are what make a Black Square aircraft a Black Square aircraft and with the excellent foundation we have from WT in the base sim, I think it is a huge miss not to provide G1000 functionality with your products. I think the Caravan, Baron, and TBM (with a new sound pack of course) would be great to eventually have G1000s added and I personally would pay for this as an expansion for certain reasons. I am seriously considering building out a King Air G1000 home cockpit with a custom big middle screen and one of those RSG input keypads. I much prefer the look of the legacy King Air’s but from a Home Cockpit builders perspective and for IRL reasons. It is significantly easier to go the Garmin route. I am begging you Nick!! I want to add this final note. Avionics options are the identity of Black Square. Unless it is a paid expansion to add G1000’s (cough cough) to existing aircraft still give us the option to have the round gauges and other avionics we normally have moving forward along with potential WT Garmin integration.
@McOatmeal I suspect you will see my reply to your other post about glass panel avionics, but I wanted to post it here too, since this thread was specifically about the G1000. Also, I just noticed your post signature and it made me chuckle
Regarding the G1000, for example, what might seem like simply adding a couple screens to the cockpit would take several weeks of modeling, materials, AO baking, LOD exports, coding, electrical changes, tablet changes, moving circuit breakers around, restructuring the entire aircraft (because the G1000 does not support hot-swapping, and I'm not even sure the G1000 could support some of the features I've built into my aircraft. To fully work with my aircraft, the avionics must be configurable to display arbitrary variables, as I've overwritten nearly every aircraft parameter MSFS has to offer. Particularly, think about the engine parameters. At several weeks per aircraft, I estimate this could total 3-4 months of work for all the applicable aircraft.
Trust me, I have considered it, and the needle is getting closer to adding glass panel options to my aircraft every day, but the work is very non-trivial. There is a reason glass panel retrofits of real world aircraft can exceed the cost of the entire airframe.
Another note: The Txi Touchscreen featured above suffers from all the challenges of the G1000, minus some of the panel redesign, and some of the electrical changes, which would make it slightly easier to include, and I must admit, it does make for a stunning panel with the GTNxi's.
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@McOatmeal I suspect you will see my reply to your other post about glass panel avionics, but I wanted to post it here too, since this thread was specifically about the G1000. Also, I just noticed your post signature and it made me chuckle
Regarding the G1000, for example, what might seem like simply adding a couple screens to the cockpit would take several weeks of modeling, materials, AO baking, LOD exports, coding, electrical changes, tablet changes, moving circuit breakers around, restructuring the entire aircraft (because the G1000 does not support hot-swapping, and I'm not even sure the G1000 could support some of the features I've built into my aircraft. To fully work with my aircraft, the avionics must be configurable to display arbitrary variables, as I've overwritten nearly every aircraft parameter MSFS has to offer. Particularly, think about the engine parameters. At several weeks per aircraft, I estimate this could total 3-4 months of work for all the applicable aircraft.
Trust me, I have considered it, and the needle is getting closer to adding glass panel options to my aircraft every day, but the work is very non-trivial. There is a reason glass panel retrofits of real world aircraft can exceed the cost of the entire airframe.
Another note: The Txi Touchscreen featured above suffers from all the challenges of the G1000, minus some of the panel redesign, and some of the electrical changes, which would make it slightly easier to include, and I must admit, it does make for a stunning panel with the GTNxi's.
@Black-Square I'm glad you are considering this. In all honesty, I would pay another $50 or whatever just to have the TBM 850 G1000 version of your aircraft. I built a lot of home cockpit hardware for the 850 G1000 back for FSX and there is no existing version of that plane in MSFS right now. I would seriously pay a decent amount for this add-on, for what it's worth.
