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Loading the TBM 850 closes MSFS 2020.

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  • Black SquareB Black Square

    I have spent a significant amount of time using the debugger to look through Working Title's GNS code to find the source of this behavior with the enter button on startup. It only happens when an aircraft has two GNS 530 units installed, which has led me to believe that it has something to do with loading event ID's when the simulation first loads. Unfortunately, that code is a little beyond my skill level to understand, and I would also not be able to distribute a fix easily if I created one.

    I have never seen the behavior on shutdown that you are describing, nor have we seen it reported by anyone else. I would make the same suggestion as above to temporarily empty your Community Folder to see if this makes any difference. If not, please let me know, and we can brainstorm some more things to try on your system.

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    GunStrauss
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    @Black-Square Do you also get this behaviour with the enter button in the '24 version of the GNS?

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      nandysho
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      Hi, thank you for the quick response, it is very much appreciated.

      @Black-Square So for me it’s a clean installation of msfs and windows.
      Before this the only aircraft installed was the SWS PC 12. Which works flawlessly and I removed it before the installation of the tbm 850. The community folder only has the tbm. This is not when two GNS 530 is installed, it’s with the default config with one GTN (which remains blank, because I do not use one) and one GNS 530. I checked event viewer and the win code is CoherentGTCore.dll. But I’m able to do full flights with no mid flight crashes.

      @GunStrauss what do mean by ‘24 version of GNS, I did not download any avionics

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        Hi, thank you for the quick response, it is very much appreciated.

        @Black-Square So for me it’s a clean installation of msfs and windows.
        Before this the only aircraft installed was the SWS PC 12. Which works flawlessly and I removed it before the installation of the tbm 850. The community folder only has the tbm. This is not when two GNS 530 is installed, it’s with the default config with one GTN (which remains blank, because I do not use one) and one GNS 530. I checked event viewer and the win code is CoherentGTCore.dll. But I’m able to do full flights with no mid flight crashes.

        @GunStrauss what do mean by ‘24 version of GNS, I did not download any avionics

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        @GunStrauss what do mean by ‘24 version of GNS, I did not download any avionics

        It was just a question for the developer.

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          nandysho
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          It’s a great aircraft I hope the code gets all the tweaks and updates to bring this up to the level of the duke

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            I'm having the same issue since the last v1.2 update. Three out of four times loading into the sim with the TBM causes a CTD. The airport doesn't matter, runway or ramp, same result. Like the OP it happens a few consecutive times and then succeeds.

            With the PMS GTN installed I get crashes when exiting the sim. With the 530 activated, I'm unable to load into the sim 50-75% of the time. I've been flying the TBM for a couple of releases and it's my favorite GA ac but the constant CTDs make it frustrating to attempt.

            Same dll error, CoherentGTCore.dll

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              I'm having the same issue since the last v1.2 update. Three out of four times loading into the sim with the TBM causes a CTD. The airport doesn't matter, runway or ramp, same result. Like the OP it happens a few consecutive times and then succeeds.

              With the PMS GTN installed I get crashes when exiting the sim. With the 530 activated, I'm unable to load into the sim 50-75% of the time. I've been flying the TBM for a couple of releases and it's my favorite GA ac but the constant CTDs make it frustrating to attempt.

              Same dll error, CoherentGTCore.dll

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              @n6478p Sorry to hear about that. I was about to write some suggestions, but unfortunately, it seems that I have already given my suggestions in the second post in this topic. There must not be many users with this problem at the present time, because I haven't heard about it from the Just Flight tech support team. If you can't get anywhere by trying what I suggested in this topic, it might be worth creating a ticket with them. They have a knowledgebase for solving issues like this that goes beyond my expertise creating the aircraft.

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                I had the same problem.
                Was caused by a freeware airport addition.
                Removed the airport and all fine.

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                  n6478p
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                  That's.....odd to say the least. Which airport/creator?

                  And to anyone else having this issue, do you use Navigraph data? Having the PMS GTN in my Community folder is pretty clearly introducing some instabilities, I wonder if it's nav data related.

                  To BSQ - Thanks, I will try creating a ticket. The challenge sometimes is that "putting things back into your community folder one at a time" is sometimes too tedious to be viable when the CTD is transient. I generally find troubleshooting myself and crowdsourcing with the forums to be more fruitful but will give it shot!

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                    Airbusjoerg
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                    I have this problem only when I load the aircraft on the runway. Always CTD.
                    When I load into a parking position, everything is fine.
                    I have the TDS-GNX and the PMS50. The aircraft reverts always to the TDS, even if I set the PMS50 in the tablet. So there is something strange going on, perhaps also related to the CTD.

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                      PiperFlyer
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                      Hello, I was having this problem and reached out to Just Flight support. I thought it might be helpful to share their reply here, as (as far as I can tell) I seem to have solved the problem by following some of their suggestions.

                      In my support ticket I had let them know that my Community folder was completely empty, and that I was getting CTD with Windows showing CoherentGTJS.dll or CoherentGTCore.dll as the cause of the crash. Of their suggestions below, I only did two things. I cleared the shader cache (Google how to do it, there are a few more steps than they describe) and I uninstalled and reinstalled all of the Visual C++ redistributable libraries (available from Microsoft, google it). I have not been getting CTDs any more (so far, and granted it was hit and miss when it was happening).

                      Here's their full reply:

                      Crashes involving CoherentGTJS.dll or CoherentGTCore.dll are commonly reported in applications like Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS) and are typically related to UI rendering issues, as these DLLs are part of the Coherent GT UI middleware used for in-game interfaces.

                      The common causes for this issues are:

                      • Memory corruption or heap allocation issues – These DLLs often crash due to corrupted memory pointers, especially when interacting with other mods or third-party content​.

                      • Outdated or incompatible GPU drivers – Many users report that updating or rolling back GPU drivers can resolve the issue​.

                      • Corrupted installation or cache – A fresh install of the game or clearing the shader cache sometimes helps.

                      • Outdated Visual C++ Redistributables or DirectX – Ensuring all runtime libraries are up to date is essential​.

                      Here are some steps you can try:

                      1. Update GPU Drivers:
                      • Use the latest stable version from NVIDIA/AMD.

                      • If the issue started after an update, try rolling back to a previous version.

                      1. Update Windows and Runtime Libraries:
                      • Ensure Windows is fully updated.
                      • Reinstall the latest Visual C++ Redistributables and DirectX.
                      1. Clear Shader Cache:
                      • For NVIDIA: Go to NVIDIA Control Panel → Manage 3D Settings → Shader Cache → Clear.
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