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How is it possible?

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    WingC3
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    How is it possible that such a small developer can deliver modules of such quality that much larger companies cannot seem to manage? Amazing.

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      I agree, it really is impressive. Going from one aircraft to the next, each reaching new leaps and bounds. I can only hope it continues.

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        How is it possible that such a small developer can deliver modules of such quality that much larger companies cannot seem to manage? Amazing.

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        @WingC3 said in How is it possible?:

        How is it possible that such a small developer can deliver modules of such quality that much larger companies cannot seem to manage? Amazing.

        Michelangelo worked alone and created the Sistine Chapel by himself. Only takes one talented mind to create a masterpiece.

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          Rhinozherous
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          Agree! Awesome aircrafts, passionate development and support!

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            I also agree. It's incredible, the level of detail and quality - and with every release, it gets more incredible. Definitely a lifetime customer here.

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              Agree totally. I was almost never an add-on purchaser before running across Black Square … the only plane I’d purchased for MSFS 2020 was the C310. Now I own five Black Square aircraft, and they are all I fly anymore. My flight in the piston Duke this morning was fantastic in every way (now, if only the ATC had been as good, but of course that’s entirely unrelated to the Duke).

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                Agree totally. I was almost never an add-on purchaser before running across Black Square … the only plane I’d purchased for MSFS 2020 was the C310. Now I own five Black Square aircraft, and they are all I fly anymore. My flight in the piston Duke this morning was fantastic in every way (now, if only the ATC had been as good, but of course that’s entirely unrelated to the Duke).

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                @mysticfm said in How is it possible?:

                now, if only the ATC had been as good, but of course that’s entirely unrelated to the Duke).

                What happened? I love a controversial ATC story

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                  @mysticfm said in How is it possible?:

                  now, if only the ATC had been as good, but of course that’s entirely unrelated to the Duke).

                  What happened? I love a controversial ATC story

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                  @andywhite - BATC. Early access, obviously, so I know I need patience, but it still wears thin when a flight goes so well right up until I’m on approach to the destination and then it falls apart, sends me all over the place and eventually crashes (for the second time in three days). The departure and enroute parts are mostly quite good, though … I just hope they’ll get the last parts sorted.

                  I effectively got BATC and the Dukes as a package upgrade to my IFR flying, and have been learning/evaluating them together. It’s not supposed to be a contest … but if it is, the Dukes are winning. 😄

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                    I agree, it really is impressive. Going from one aircraft to the next, each reaching new leaps and bounds. I can only hope it continues.

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                    @hazzer111 said in How is it possible?:

                    I can only hope it continues.

                    Wait until you guys see the Starship previews in a couple weeks 🙂

                    I have absolutely not held back when it comes to the AMS-850. I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                    @andywhite said in How is it possible?:

                    if only the ATC had been as good

                    I pine for the days of FS2002-FSX's ATC with EditVoicePack, personally. The AWOS in particular was uncanny to a real world pilot.

                    Thank you all for the praise here. You really shouldn't go so far as to compare me to Michelangelo, but I am delighted by the sentiment. The truth is that these aircraft have become an all consuming obsession in my life, as is so often the case for anyone who produces at such a high level and enjoys the process of creation. I know no other way than to obsess over the details, often working for 16 hours per day just to see something though. I feel bad that there are any bugs, mistakes, and oversights, but I would probably never release my aircraft to the public if I waited for them to be unquestionably perfect.

                    Thank you all for the recognition. Now, get back out there and let's do some flying! 🙂

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                      @hazzer111 said in How is it possible?:

                      I can only hope it continues.

                      Wait until you guys see the Starship previews in a couple weeks 🙂

                      I have absolutely not held back when it comes to the AMS-850. I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                      @andywhite said in How is it possible?:

                      if only the ATC had been as good

                      I pine for the days of FS2002-FSX's ATC with EditVoicePack, personally. The AWOS in particular was uncanny to a real world pilot.

                      Thank you all for the praise here. You really shouldn't go so far as to compare me to Michelangelo, but I am delighted by the sentiment. The truth is that these aircraft have become an all consuming obsession in my life, as is so often the case for anyone who produces at such a high level and enjoys the process of creation. I know no other way than to obsess over the details, often working for 16 hours per day just to see something though. I feel bad that there are any bugs, mistakes, and oversights, but I would probably never release my aircraft to the public if I waited for them to be unquestionably perfect.

                      Thank you all for the recognition. Now, get back out there and let's do some flying! 🙂

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                      @Black-Square said in How is it possible?:

                      I have absolutely not held back when it comes to the AMS-850. I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                      ... Loran? 👀

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                        @Black-Square said in How is it possible?:

                        I have absolutely not held back when it comes to the AMS-850. I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                        ... Loran? 👀

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                        @piedmonitor Close! I told myself that Loran was all that was left, so I have to do that for a future aircraft, haha.

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                          @piedmonitor Close! I told myself that Loran was all that was left, so I have to do that for a future aircraft, haha.

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                          @Black-Square Now you've got me dreaming of something like a Black Square DC-7 or DC-8 or 707 with an old Loran receiver fitted...

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                            @hazzer111 said in How is it possible?:

                            I can only hope it continues.

                            Wait until you guys see the Starship previews in a couple weeks 🙂

                            I have absolutely not held back when it comes to the AMS-850. I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                            @andywhite said in How is it possible?:

                            if only the ATC had been as good

                            I pine for the days of FS2002-FSX's ATC with EditVoicePack, personally. The AWOS in particular was uncanny to a real world pilot.

                            Thank you all for the praise here. You really shouldn't go so far as to compare me to Michelangelo, but I am delighted by the sentiment. The truth is that these aircraft have become an all consuming obsession in my life, as is so often the case for anyone who produces at such a high level and enjoys the process of creation. I know no other way than to obsess over the details, often working for 16 hours per day just to see something though. I feel bad that there are any bugs, mistakes, and oversights, but I would probably never release my aircraft to the public if I waited for them to be unquestionably perfect.

                            Thank you all for the recognition. Now, get back out there and let's do some flying! 🙂

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                            @Black-Square Do you do Black Square as a full time job, if I may ask?

                            Also about the Starship, I downloaded the aircraft manual and read a little about that old Pro Line 4. I can't figure out if it has VNAV capability or if you have to use a VNAV calculator and input the descent rate on your own?

                            Is there GPS navigation on the aircraft, and is it able to follow RNAV approaches? I assume its autopilot can follow ILS.

                            Finally, is there any chance in hell that Robert Scherer is an MSFS fan and let you have access to his aircraft to get reference material and info? Did you make a trip to the Beechcraft Heritage Museum? In a way you are helping preserve history, I hope you can get access to some good quality sources.

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                              @hazzer111 said in How is it possible?:

                              I can only hope it continues.

                              Wait until you guys see the Starship previews in a couple weeks 🙂

                              I have absolutely not held back when it comes to the AMS-850. I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                              @andywhite said in How is it possible?:

                              if only the ATC had been as good

                              I pine for the days of FS2002-FSX's ATC with EditVoicePack, personally. The AWOS in particular was uncanny to a real world pilot.

                              Thank you all for the praise here. You really shouldn't go so far as to compare me to Michelangelo, but I am delighted by the sentiment. The truth is that these aircraft have become an all consuming obsession in my life, as is so often the case for anyone who produces at such a high level and enjoys the process of creation. I know no other way than to obsess over the details, often working for 16 hours per day just to see something though. I feel bad that there are any bugs, mistakes, and oversights, but I would probably never release my aircraft to the public if I waited for them to be unquestionably perfect.

                              Thank you all for the recognition. Now, get back out there and let's do some flying! 🙂

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                              @Black-Square said in How is it possible?:

                              I have even simulated yet another archaic global radionavigation system from when the Starship was built, years before GPS became popular.

                              You sly dog, how did I know you’d simulate Omega? Love you for it, and I just know you’ll have something else up your sleeve. Now we just need someone to do scenery for the towers.

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                                @Black-Square Do you do Black Square as a full time job, if I may ask?

                                Also about the Starship, I downloaded the aircraft manual and read a little about that old Pro Line 4. I can't figure out if it has VNAV capability or if you have to use a VNAV calculator and input the descent rate on your own?

                                Is there GPS navigation on the aircraft, and is it able to follow RNAV approaches? I assume its autopilot can follow ILS.

                                Finally, is there any chance in hell that Robert Scherer is an MSFS fan and let you have access to his aircraft to get reference material and info? Did you make a trip to the Beechcraft Heritage Museum? In a way you are helping preserve history, I hope you can get access to some good quality sources.

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                                @Marionettework Rob has all of his resources publicly available online for all to see and use. However I do hope he’s participated for hands on reference for the aircraft and sound recording. As for the RNAV and VNAV, I think the aircraft only has advisory VNAV, but it is fully RNAV capable. It has also been retrofitted with GPS and will almost certainly be present. I’ve seen Rob’s plane equipped with a GNS430 in the lower pedestal beneath the autopilot, but in the walkaround of one of Raj Narayanan’s Starships, there appears to be something completely different down in that slot. I’m not sure exactly what goes there as in the manuals I’ve read it just shows a blank plate, so it might be something that can be customized. That said, I’m sure Nick has been in contact with both of them and I don’t doubt they’ve been happy to share all the bountiful info they have, so let’s hope he can get all those things done accurately.

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