Autopilot After SIM Update 14
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Nope, the fix only allowed me to run on first start from main menu once, but at least it allowed a change of plan in flight. When I went back to to try the turbo Baron, the plan didnt load, so appears that mod has not worked. This is not good JustFlight guys!
I would appreciate an expert spelling out in greater detail what one does exactly to replace/insert the update code.
What should be deleted from what line to what line?
I simply added the update code, in hindsight maybe I should have replaced, but not being an expert in htese matters, I assumed just to insert the code after the line found by the search spcified.Finally it might be good plan to make this a separate topic on the modification specifically, under a title say "Fix G530/430 function in BlackSquare Beechcraft" so its easy to find.
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@Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
and replace the existing update function with the following:
Ah, well at least we now know why it didn't work for you. You must replace the nearly identical ~20 lines of code in the file with the lines I provided. I would love to distribute a fix, but there are two reasons I have not. Firstly, I don't want to be accused of distributing WT code without permission, now that it is included in the base simulator. Secondly, our technical support already has to contend with numerous "compatibility" mods for different aircraft that claim to fix one problem, or at one point did, that now cause other problems. I didn't want to add yet one more mod to that list, especially when I thought this would be fixed quickly.
This should have been a nearly overnight fix (my opinion), but I think the holidays have gotten in the way of a fix from Working Title, who are the only ones that can provide an official patch. I finally heard back from my contact at WT yesterday, who indicated that I will hear a comprehensive answer from them soon. I will keep you all updated as soon as I have more information.
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When I try to open the javascript file to paste in the new lines I get a Windows security pop up telling me
"Your internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened".
Any advice on this? SU15 seems a long way away at the moment..... -
@DD_Arthur said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
When I try to open the javascript file to paste in the new lines I get a Windows security pop up telling me
"Your internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened".
Any advice on this? SU15 seems a long way away at the moment.....Sounds like you're trying to run it by double clicking. Can you right click and choose Edit?
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@Black-Square Thats good news then, I look forward to hearing about the WT patch when it arrives. In the meantime I've tried reinstalling the G530/430 in Marketplace.. no joy. And was going to reload the aircraft. Now that you have clarified your code insertion, I will give that a go and see what happens. I fly with a group that has many members that have the 850 and no one else has mentioned the problem, which is intriguing. But then I havent specifically asked, maybe they have or dont use the G530.
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@DD_Arthur I had the same problem. I remember that I first made a copy of the two files that I put into the folder: your drive:\WpSystem\S-1-5-21-2137767112-3102214327-255619651-1003\AppData\Local\Packages. From there I could move the files onto another drive, where I was able to open and edit using Notepad++. Another method is to drag the files into a specially created zipfile and export from there onto the other drive, where you can edit.
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@Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
Thanks for asking. The GPS developers explicitly told me to use the pointer last time we spoke a couple months ago,
Hi there - I just noticed this. Am I correct then that we need both the actual WT GSN mod AND the small one that is the pointer? Tech support from Just Flight told me exactly the opposite -- ie that I should get rid of the small pointer file.
Also - regarding some other comments you made -- since the analog caravan is a different aircraft than the default Caravan, I assumed that any Caravan mods would not affect the BS version. Is that incorrect?
I'm asking about these because I'd given up on flying my BS Caravan for the moment because none of the solutions have fixed the issues for me.
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@ultradianguy said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
@Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
Thanks for asking. The GPS developers explicitly told me to use the pointer last time we spoke a couple months ago,
Hi there - I just noticed this. Am I correct then that we need both the actual WT GSN mod AND the small one that is the pointer? Tech support from Just Flight told me exactly the opposite -- ie that I should get rid of the small pointer file.
Also - regarding some other comments you made -- since the analog caravan is a different aircraft than the default Caravan, I assumed that any Caravan mods would not affect the BS version. Is that incorrect?
I'm asking about these because I'd given up on flying my BS Caravan for the moment because none of the solutions have fixed the issues for me.
What issues are you having with the Caravan? Check this topic: https://community.justflight.com/post/25805 and see if that's your issue.
You DO need the WT mod v1.14 from the Marketplace for the Caravan, though; the new WT avionics are not natively integrated and will call the old Asobo stuff without it (which doesn't work well at all anymore).
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@jmarkows said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
What issues are you having with the Caravan? Check this topic:
I've been participating in this thread already, so my problems are already explained in my early posts here.
EDIT: Just reviewed the thread you linked and that is very encouraging. Didn't realize there were more solutions beyond what is above.
However, I am STILL quite confused about the WT mods in Content Manager. There is one that is larger (MBs) and one small one (a few KB). I understood one was the actual code change and one was just a pointer for planes that weren't updated to use the WT code. I'd appreciate it if someone can confirm which of those should be in place.
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One of them is the actual avionics incorporated in SU11. That's the one without a thumbnail. The one with the color picture of the GNS units is the pointer mod for aircraft that haven't been updated to call them natively.
Until they're updated, you need it for the Black Square aircraft, and this is called out in the manuals for them. There's quite the brouhaha in the MSFS forums rightnow about the fact that nobody seems to really know what they do and don't do.
As I (and end user who has learned a little fighting with various aircraft that need it) understand it, it's a very simple change to point things calling for the original Asobo avionics to the new WT avionics. In theory, that shouldn't affect anything else, but it can and does "break" stuff when called because the avionics also contain/handle the autopilot. The new WT autopilot works very different from the original Asobo stuff, so things coded to use different features or send different events may not work or may work funky.
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@ultradianguy said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
I'd appreciate it if someone can confirm which of those should be in place.
You need both.
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@Bert-Pieke So this is helpful, although when I originally reached out to Justflight support - before they raised the ticket with BS directly - they told me the opposite. So I hope everyone will get on the same page about this.
And then also clarify which of the additional code edits are needed to fix all the issues - I've seen in other threads that BS has suggested changes to the 530/430 files, the KAP140 files, and systems.cfg.
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@ultradianguy said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
So I hope everyone will get on the same page about this.
Things change... it is the nature of the beast.
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@Bert-Pieke Of course - I understand that. In this case, the instructions to resolve this specific issue - same ticket - have been contradictory. Some of that is likely due to evolving debugging. But some of it is insufficient communication between JF and -in this case - the BS dev.
We're all human and fixing my sim experience is hardly the most important thing in life - but also I've spent a lot of my own time on resolving issues with a commercial product. I backed off on using it altogether because I just couldn't justify that amount of time for fixing something that shouldn't be my job. So I'm just asking the players to communicate with each other and then provide a comprehensive and consistent message in one place that doesn't require hunting through posts in one or more threads. No blame, no unkind words. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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@ultradianguy said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
I don't think that's unreasonable.
I do not think you are being unreasonable at all, and I understand your frustration.
Personally, I am just happy that the developer is engaged and quick to jump in when problems arise.. Other aircraft, I have had to park, waiting for the "update" to make its way through the system.. -
I could probably post this in numerous topics on this forum right now, but I will also add that you will no longer need the extra WT package from the in-game marketplace if you make one small change to just the Caravan's PANEL.CFG. If you change these two lines...
htmlgauge00=NavSystems/GPS/AS530/AS530.html, 0, 0, 320,234 htmlgauge00=NavSystems/GPS/AS430/AS430.html, 0, 0, 350, 190To these two lines...
htmlgauge00=NavSystems/GPS/WT530/WT530.html, 0, 0, 320,234 htmlgauge00=NavSystems/GPS/WT430/WT430.html, 0, 0, 350, 190That's essentially all that WT package is doing. It's redirecting calls to the original Asobo 530/430 to the new WT 530/430.
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@Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:
I could probably post this in numerous topics on this forum right now, but I will also add that you will no longer need the extra WT package from the in-game marketplace if you make one small change to just the Caravan's PANEL.CFG. If you change these two lines...
Thanks much and thanks for all the communication. Any chance of gathering all the needed edits in one place ? I think we're up to 5 files that need revision now to resolve all these issues:
- GNS 530
- GNS 430
- KAP 140
- Systems.cfg
- Panel.cfg
