Double the GNS 530W ... three times the flight plan.
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I appear to have the opposite problem, where the GNS at times does not display the selected flightplan at all. Is there a way to load it if it is missing?
BTW.. the flightplan is then also missing on the VFR map.Not sure if this is relevant, but the A36 seems to show the same behavior, whereas other planes show the selected flightplan just fine..
Anyone?
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I have had the same problem with the working title GNS 530. I haven't found a good way to deal with it either, other than manually imputing my flight plan directly into the GNS 530 in sim. What is also odd is that on occasion if I flick over to the GTN 750 the flight plan is there, back to the GNS 530 and its gone again(?).
I have found that IFR planning in the world map including, for example, an ILS approach has almost guaranteed a no-show of the flight plan in the GNS 530 in sim. On other occasions, when say I plan a simple VFR flight, it will show up just fine. I guess in terms of realism, however, a pilot will typical punch the flight plan into the GNS anyway although there would also be the option to save a plan on the device for regular trips - something missing in the sim unfortunately. -
@Geoff-BJ I have been testing this... and there is something flakey about the TBMs ability to load a flightplan. As a comparison, the C172 is rock solid, but the TBM is 50/50 at best. Not sure what makes it work, or not..
Hope the developer is reading this..
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Just to add one observation.. the panel state saving has also been inconsistent for me, so I hardcoded the LVars into the runway.flt file (as I learned from the Carenado planes) and so far
a) the panel loads correctly
b) the flightplan shows on the vfr map..Lets see if this sticks!
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@Bert-Pieke said in Double the GNS 530W ... three times the flight plan.:
Just to add one observation.. the panel state saving has also been inconsistent for me, so I hardcoded the LVars into the runway.flt file (as I learned from the Carenado planes)
This sounds interesting, since I am also suffering fragile aircraft state saving (support ticket in progress).
Could you advise what needs to be done to hardcode the LVars and share your runway.flt (or the relevant section of it)?
Thanks,
Stefan
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@sg_aviation What I do, is when the panel loads up incorrectly, save the flight in-game, then select the correct gauges and save the flight in-game a second time.
If I compare the two saved flt files, I can find the variables that matter. For the TBM and A36, I got a similar, but slightly different set of variables. As an example for the TDS GTN in the TBM, I got:
GTN750_INT_HIDDEN=1
XMLVAR_GPS_DISABLED_GTN750=0
AS530_1_HIDDEN=1
KX155B_1_HIDDEN=1
AS530_2_HIDDEN=1
KX155B_2_HIDDEN=0
XMLVAR_GPS_DISABLED_AS530_1=1
TDSGTNXI_INACTIVEVAR=0
var_radio2Mode=1
XMLVAR_GPS_DISABLED_AS530_2=1
TDS_GTN750_VIZ=-1
TDS_GTN650_VIZ=-1
XMLVAR_NEXTGEN_FLIGHTPLAN_ENABLED=0
WT_GNS530_INSTALLED_2=0
These lines then are added to the runway.flt file in the [LocalVars.0] section. -
@Bert-Pieke I have to confess that the whole LVars thing and such like is quite beyond me. However, I get the gist and what I will say is that many of your observations are very similar to mine. The state saving issue is another problem that is, as mentioned, both fragile and intermittent. In other words, for no apparent reason I start a flight and discover that the GNS is no longer selected, rather it is the GTN for example. In addition, I will find the engine state/condition back to 100% and and previously left as is failures cleared.
In all this is a fantastic plane and the work that Black Square has put into realising it is nothing less than exemplary. However, I very much favour flying with the GNS530 and KX155 combo in particular (not least because I have a FlightSimBuilder GNS panel) and I seem to encounter a very, as you say, 'flaky' experience. This is not the case in most other GNS equipped aircraft. Recently, more times than not any flight plan entered into the world map simply does not arrive in the TBM's GNS and state saving is a little hit and miss.
It's all a bit strange and I do hope the developers involved will see these issues raised and provide a useful update at some point. -
@Geoff-BJ Try unzipping this into your Community folder and start up the TBM850.
Please report back!
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9s3mm2pkus72v7a4jmki8/bksq-TBM850-GNS-panel.zip?rlkey=ausrmi019p76ehf1gzdj091j3&dl=0 -
@Bert-Pieke Thank you, I'll give it a try next days.
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@Geoff-BJ said in Double the GNS 530W ... three times the flight plan.:
@Bert-Pieke It's all a bit strange and I do hope the developers involved will see these issues raised and provide a useful update at some point.
Just for transparency, these are my observations with the state saving I put in a support ticket to JustFlight:
- Aircraft state is not saved after loading a flight on apron, making adjustments, ending flight and quit to desktop (even after waiting 30 mins before ending flight)
- Outside Air Temp. unit (°C) is never saved between flights (however cabin Temp unit (°C) is saved)
- Last fuel level is not saved
- A successfully saved aircraft state (incl. all states & settings in WXR setup manager) is reset to default after:
- (a) ending flight, viewing the aircraft in Profile > My Hangar, then closing to desktop (not using "X" as instructed!)
- (b) loading a flight starting on the runway
I will cross-reference this thread within the ticket.
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@sg_aviation Let us know what you find!
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@Bert-Pieke Thanks for doing this, I have been quite busy this last couple of days but as soon as I get some free time I'll try it out and let you know how it went. :-)
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@Bert-Pieke Good news! . have tried your interim fix and it appears to work very well indeed - at least flight plans entered into the world map now appear reliably loaded into the GNS, even those with ILS approaches which were previously guaranteed not to appear! Thanks again.
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@Geoff-BJ said in Double the GNS 530W ... three times the flight plan.:
Recently, more times than not any flight plan entered into the world map simply does not arrive in the TBM's GNS and state saving is a little hit and miss.
It's all a bit strange and I do hope the developers involved will see these issues raised and provide a useful update at some point.To the developer.. It appears to me that when the state saving does not work correctly, and a second GPS appears, which can be switched off by the switches in the cockpit, the flightplan is no longer available, either to the primary GPS or the VFR map.
Adding the LVARs to the apron and runway.flt files appears to force the loading of the correct configuration, and keeps the flightplan intact..
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@Bert-Pieke Thank you, I have saved a flight and got all the LVars to put into the apron.flt. In addition I found another way to identify the right LVars and settings, especially because some have dependencies between each other:
Enable Developer Mode, in-flight go to Dev Mode -> Tools -> Behaviors -> LocalVariables.
Here you can see the LVars being updated live as you handle the aircraft.
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@sg_aviation Yes, that is actually a better way to understand which variables change, as you push the buttons... either way, if you find a set that works for you.. you should be OK. :-)
