Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
Collapse
Just Flight Community Forum
  1. Home
  2. Just Flight
  3. MSFS Products
  4. F28 Professional
  5. KLN90B GPS instead of GNS530

KLN90B GPS instead of GNS530

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved F28 Professional
9 Posts 6 Posters 1.3k Views 2 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • C Offline
    C Offline
    Captain.Ronin
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I have seen this fantastic freeware KLN90B GPS mod for MSFS

    https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/msfs-kln-90b-integration.457361/

    That got me thinking that it would be fantastic for the F28 to give it a better “70’s aircraft modified with GPS in the 80’s-90’s”vibe! Much better than the GNS530 in my opinion.

    Haven’t found any photos of a F28 with a KLN but there are dozens of different similar GPS variations on these aircrafts so who knows.

    image0.jpeg

    Is this something someone would be able to mod into the F28?

    MarkM 1 Reply Last reply
    2
    • C Captain.Ronin

      I have seen this fantastic freeware KLN90B GPS mod for MSFS

      https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/msfs-kln-90b-integration.457361/

      That got me thinking that it would be fantastic for the F28 to give it a better “70’s aircraft modified with GPS in the 80’s-90’s”vibe! Much better than the GNS530 in my opinion.

      Haven’t found any photos of a F28 with a KLN but there are dozens of different similar GPS variations on these aircrafts so who knows.

      image0.jpeg

      Is this something someone would be able to mod into the F28?

      MarkM Offline
      MarkM Offline
      Mark
      JF Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @captain-ronin We have considered adding the KLN 90B, but the difficulty we face is the more GPS units we add to an aircraft, the more difficult it is to support them all.

      For instance, in the current version of the F28 Professional with no GPS selected, the F28 uses our own Autopilot logic. However, as soon as the Working Title GNS530 is selected, our autopilot logic gets overruled and the Working Title GNS530 tries to take control of the autopilot. We then have to add additional code to workaround various compatibility issues that arise, all whilst making sure the flight model is suitable for both Autopilot options. The more GPS units we add, the more code we have to add to workaround each GPS unit's quirks, and all get very messy, very quickly.

      We will investigate the KLN 90B though to see if it's something we could add at a later date.

      Mark - Just Flight

      Just Flight Development Assistant

      F 1 Reply Last reply
      1
      • MarkM Mark

        @captain-ronin We have considered adding the KLN 90B, but the difficulty we face is the more GPS units we add to an aircraft, the more difficult it is to support them all.

        For instance, in the current version of the F28 Professional with no GPS selected, the F28 uses our own Autopilot logic. However, as soon as the Working Title GNS530 is selected, our autopilot logic gets overruled and the Working Title GNS530 tries to take control of the autopilot. We then have to add additional code to workaround various compatibility issues that arise, all whilst making sure the flight model is suitable for both Autopilot options. The more GPS units we add, the more code we have to add to workaround each GPS unit's quirks, and all get very messy, very quickly.

        We will investigate the KLN 90B though to see if it's something we could add at a later date.

        Mark - Just Flight

        F Offline
        F Offline
        falcon71
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @mark Hi Mark,

        I'm the author of the KLN 90B. Unlike the Working Title systems, the KLN does not overwrite the autopilot at all. It does however update the internal simulator flight plan and it was reported to me, that the default autopilot follows this flight plan. If you are interested in implementing the KLN or need any help, you can drop me a message.

        MarkM 1 Reply Last reply
        5
        • F falcon71

          @mark Hi Mark,

          I'm the author of the KLN 90B. Unlike the Working Title systems, the KLN does not overwrite the autopilot at all. It does however update the internal simulator flight plan and it was reported to me, that the default autopilot follows this flight plan. If you are interested in implementing the KLN or need any help, you can drop me a message.

          MarkM Offline
          MarkM Offline
          Mark
          JF Staff
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @falcon71 Thank you for the offer! Martyn our development manager is currently on holiday at the moment, but I'll be sure to make him aware of this when he returns and we'll reach out to you if we need anything.

          We did consider adding the KLN 90B for the F28s release, but unfortunately, we found out about the release of the KLN 90B a little too close to our projected F28 release date so we decided to stick with the WT GNS530 to not complicate matters that late into a project. With the KLN 90B not overwriting the autopilot, it does make it much more feasible for us to add it in a future update.

          Mark - Just Flight

          Just Flight Development Assistant

          Friese2020F 1 Reply Last reply
          3
          • MarkM Mark

            @falcon71 Thank you for the offer! Martyn our development manager is currently on holiday at the moment, but I'll be sure to make him aware of this when he returns and we'll reach out to you if we need anything.

            We did consider adding the KLN 90B for the F28s release, but unfortunately, we found out about the release of the KLN 90B a little too close to our projected F28 release date so we decided to stick with the WT GNS530 to not complicate matters that late into a project. With the KLN 90B not overwriting the autopilot, it does make it much more feasible for us to add it in a future update.

            Mark - Just Flight

            Friese2020F Online
            Friese2020F Online
            Friese2020
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Mark Hi Mark, did Martyn respond to the proposal of captain-ronin/falcon71 and have a look at the KLN90B as an alternative GPS. As this KLN90B is functional in the great BS Duke's and in the WB172, it would be a great idea to extend the use to the F28. Best regard, Auke.

            Friese2020F 1 Reply Last reply
            1
            • MarkM Offline
              MarkM Offline
              Mark
              JF Staff
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              We will be investigating what additional GPS options we can add ahead of the upcoming 'Version 2' update to the F28 Professional. We'll share more information on this update once we have a final feature set closer to release.

              Mark - Just Flight

              Just Flight Development Assistant

              1 Reply Last reply
              2
              • Friese2020F Friese2020

                @Mark Hi Mark, did Martyn respond to the proposal of captain-ronin/falcon71 and have a look at the KLN90B as an alternative GPS. As this KLN90B is functional in the great BS Duke's and in the WB172, it would be a great idea to extend the use to the F28. Best regard, Auke.

                Friese2020F Online
                Friese2020F Online
                Friese2020
                wrote on last edited by Friese2020
                #7

                @Friese2020 Made a fault in post #5; The A2A Comanche was the one I should have referred to. NOT the WB172. 😞

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • K Offline
                  K Offline
                  Kenzo
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Hope this will be added as an option to v2!

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  3
                  • T Offline
                    T Offline
                    Tim-HH
                    wrote on last edited by Tim-HH
                    #9

                    Yes, I hope that as well! The KLN90B would be the perfect fit for the F28.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    2
                    Reply
                    • Reply as topic
                    Log in to reply
                    • Oldest to Newest
                    • Newest to Oldest
                    • Most Votes


                    • Login

                    • Don't have an account? Register

                    • Login or register to search.
                    • First post
                      Last post
                    0
                    • Categories
                    • Recent
                    • Tags
                    • Popular
                    • Users