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    28guns
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    having a problem tuning ADF cannot get it to display on RMI. also do the nav radios Morse idents work?

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    @28guns I’ve had trouble with this as well up in Alaska and in the NWT. NDB signals are HF signals, so they reach further and are less affected by terrain than VORs that operate at VHF frequencies. That means you need to be line of sight for a VOR but not really for NDBs. NDBs can be subject to weather and time of day and other factors in a way that VORs are not. NDBs like any radio, depend on their power output. Navigraph now gives us the information on NDBs and VORs after the DC-6 was released, so you can look them up and see how they work. So I believe a lot of the NDBs remaining work when you’re close to the field for approaches at some larger remote airports and are lower power.

    Use ANT to listen to the identifier. I’ve been able to tune them and hear the nearly silent identifier (I wish Asobo with fox that) and had the needle move, but only at really close range.

    Brian
    https://www.flyaka.com
    Alaska Adventures

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    @dadgametime
    HI, yes the switch on the RMI is not clear in the manual, it says turn ADF to the instrument ring, but it isn't clear ,the inside or outside ring of the RMI
    Also the tuning scale on the selector panel is very poor.

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    @28guns those old analog radios. I turn on the BFO and watch for the needle because it can be hard to hear the radios, BUT tonight I will try the headphone simulation as @martyn suggested on another topic and see if so can hear the identifier.

    Brian
    https://www.flyaka.com
    Alaska Adventures

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    28guns
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    I still can't get the ADF to work, if i switch the radios on I can tune a nearby NDB , and see the needle on the RMI point at the beacon but when I start the engines the Needle reverts to the 3 0clock postion .

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    @28guns
    I have tried everything with the ADF radios, they don't work.
    which for an aircraft that depends on Radio navigation is dissapointing.

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    tupolevCZ
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    @28guns I also tried it and it's no chance... I can't tune ADF/NDB even when I'm 3 nm away from it on landing LKPR NDB L 372 just can't tune it. NSBs on the route are a dream.

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    I have managed to use ADF ok once you get the freq set correctly.

    Example below is BIA near EGHH on 339

    Screenshot 2023-07-16 141153.jpg Screenshot 2023-07-16 141216.jpgScreenshot 2023-07-16 141533.jpg

    https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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    28guns
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    acording to the manual the picture above shows you are set to a VOR the switch on the RMI . also dme 1 is light is on so that is a VOR.

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    @woolies We need some clarification from the devs on the operation of the ADF< the manual is very sketchy.

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    Nope, it is the BIA NDB. Switch is with ADF facing the RMI ... 100%

    I did also have a VOR (SAM 113.35) active and could toggle between the 2 with th VOR / ADF switch on the RMI

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    Another pic with the NDB on the double arrow with different switch position. Can also hear the morse of the NDB. So seems to work fine. The thing is just getting the freq set correctly which is fiddly.

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    28guns
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    @woolies ok, I will give it another go thanks.
    i think part of the problem is the poor tunning on the selector.

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    Martyn JF Staff
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    The old school ADF controllers are not that well suited to MSFS. The simulator also doesn't support ADF tuning very realistically, you need to have the frequency tuned exactly before any signal is picked up. At the moment the tooltip on the tuning knob is pretty essential for tuning it accurately.

    Martyn - Development Manager

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    ok thank you for your reply, I will try with the tool tip on
    regards.

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    if you have flow pro you can set up a simvar viewer for the ADF frequencies

    Screenshot (91).jpg

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    @martyn
    Hope we get a tooltip view for ADF only in the future? Maybe option to replace the strength indicator with digits? With BFO selected?

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