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F-15 f-14 on series x

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    Do we know when msfs will give us the full potential of the aircraft you have added. Also why did they make you remove certain features and is there anyway to side load these on the series x

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    @currator MSFS is a work in progress but the F-14s are quite detailed as they are. MSFS is a PEGI-3 rated game, which means no weapons - Microsoft's platform, Microsoft's rules, unfortunately.

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      @currator MSFS is a work in progress but the F-14s are quite detailed as they are. MSFS is a PEGI-3 rated game, which means no weapons - Microsoft's platform, Microsoft's rules, unfortunately.

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      @dc1973 do the weapons work on Pc or something or they are just for appearances

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        @currator MSFS is a work in progress but the F-14s are quite detailed as they are. MSFS is a PEGI-3 rated game, which means no weapons - Microsoft's platform, Microsoft's rules, unfortunately.

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        @dc1973 that’s a European game rating. I’m in the U.S.

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          @dc1973 that’s a European game rating. I’m in the U.S.

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          @currator Weapons can only work on PC, when purchased from third party stores, and PEGI US-equivalent applies, so no weapons from Marketplace purchases at all in MSFS

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            @currator Weapons can only work on PC, when purchased from third party stores, and PEGI US-equivalent applies, so no weapons from Marketplace purchases at all in MSFS

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            @dc1973 so they can dogfight on the PC version bought third party? Also is the speed limited on these third party sellers versions as well. Also what kids play this game. It’s not a children’s game. Teenagers yes but definitely not for children

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              @dc1973 so they can dogfight on the PC version bought third party? Also is the speed limited on these third party sellers versions as well. Also what kids play this game. It’s not a children’s game. Teenagers yes but definitely not for children

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              @currator No the speed is not limited, the F-14s are capable of Mach 2.3 at high altitude, just like the real aircraft. I agree, children don't play MSFS, but I don't make the rules, Microsoft do.

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                @currator No the speed is not limited, the F-14s are capable of Mach 2.3 at high altitude, just like the real aircraft. I agree, children don't play MSFS, but I don't make the rules, Microsoft do.

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                @dc1973 I read over the 14 flight manual and found it helpful but I never got top speed and I stayed in between 5k and 18k altitude or am I supposed to go higher. Also will the speed limiter be removed on the 15 anytime soon?

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                  @currator Weapons can only work on PC, when purchased from third party stores, and PEGI US-equivalent applies, so no weapons from Marketplace purchases at all in MSFS

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                  @dc1973 the weapon systems only work against other combat aircraft correct or in pc was it any aircraft as I could see that as a problem for Microsoft

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                  • C currator

                    @dc1973 I read over the 14 flight manual and found it helpful but I never got top speed and I stayed in between 5k and 18k altitude or am I supposed to go higher. Also will the speed limiter be removed on the 15 anytime soon?

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                    @currator Aviation is a complex subject and you need to know about the differences between Indicated airspeed, Calibrated airspeed, Ground speed and Mach to truly know how fast you're going. You'll need 30,000ft + for Mach 2, which will read as around 550 knots indicated, with a ground speed of around 1,200 knots. These are not arcade jets like some of those in MSFS, they're the real deal. Maximum airspeed at low level is about Mach 1.2, which is around 750 knots indicated airspeed.

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                      @dc1973 so they can dogfight on the PC version bought third party? Also is the speed limited on these third party sellers versions as well. Also what kids play this game. It’s not a children’s game. Teenagers yes but definitely not for children

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                      @currator

                      It’s not a children’s game.

                      It may not be aimed at children, but a lot of them play it.

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                        @currator Aviation is a complex subject and you need to know about the differences between Indicated airspeed, Calibrated airspeed, Ground speed and Mach to truly know how fast you're going. You'll need 30,000ft + for Mach 2, which will read as around 550 knots indicated, with a ground speed of around 1,200 knots. These are not arcade jets like some of those in MSFS, they're the real deal. Maximum airspeed at low level is about Mach 1.2, which is around 750 knots indicated airspeed.

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                        @dc1973 thanks for explaining it. I appreciate it and so far am enjoying them a ton and me and a buddy bought both the 14 and 15 the day I believe they hit the market place on the series x. We have been learning how to use the aircraft through trial and error but I learned a lot going over the 14 manual. Then I was getting top speed and did not understand how to read the speed correctly for altitude. A good idea to put into the info page on the market place is the explanation you just gave me on how to tell the correct speed. Also I practiced restarting engines in air after reading the manual and worked like a charm. I really do enjoy the planes but am saddened that Microsoft made them remove features. Maybe one day they can be added back. Maybe Microsoft can make combat only server with no commercial aircraft.

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                          @dc1973 thanks for explaining it. I appreciate it and so far am enjoying them a ton and me and a buddy bought both the 14 and 15 the day I believe they hit the market place on the series x. We have been learning how to use the aircraft through trial and error but I learned a lot going over the 14 manual. Then I was getting top speed and did not understand how to read the speed correctly for altitude. A good idea to put into the info page on the market place is the explanation you just gave me on how to tell the correct speed. Also I practiced restarting engines in air after reading the manual and worked like a charm. I really do enjoy the planes but am saddened that Microsoft made them remove features. Maybe one day they can be added back. Maybe Microsoft can make combat only server with no commercial aircraft.

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                          @currator There is a support page here at Just Flight with some FAQ entries on the F-14. There is only so much space in a manual to explain things, and aviation is a huge subject so we cannot include everything unfortunately. The F-15s are also very accurate in performance compared to the real aircraft.

                          They're also designed to be good fun though, and a great place to learn more about flying. Good to hear you and others are enjoying them :)

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                            @currator There is a support page here at Just Flight with some FAQ entries on the F-14. There is only so much space in a manual to explain things, and aviation is a huge subject so we cannot include everything unfortunately. The F-15s are also very accurate in performance compared to the real aircraft.

                            They're also designed to be good fun though, and a great place to learn more about flying. Good to hear you and others are enjoying them :)

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                            @dc1973 does the version sold on just flight for PC have operation weapon systems? I know you were saying third party does. And how do you define operational.

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                              @dc1973 does the version sold on just flight for PC have operation weapon systems? I know you were saying third party does. And how do you define operational.

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                              @currator The Just Flight version still has its weapons, but all such weapons are visual only in MSFS, there are no active weapons ( yet ).

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                                @currator The Just Flight version still has its weapons, but all such weapons are visual only in MSFS, there are no active weapons ( yet ).

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                                @dc1973 guess I need to get a pc to get the full function then. Does the current f15 and f14 have a radar mode to see other planes in the air. Have not been able to makes heads or tails? Or is this something coming later when the weapons will actually do more then be visualized

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                                  @dc1973 guess I need to get a pc to get the full function then. Does the current f15 and f14 have a radar mode to see other planes in the air. Have not been able to makes heads or tails? Or is this something coming later when the weapons will actually do more then be visualized

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                                  @currator It is highly unlikely MS will ever 'weaponise' MSFS. The days of Combat Flight Simulator are long passed. If you want to shoot things you need to look at something like DCS or War Thunder.

                                  FSX/P3D has a TacPack addon - https://www.vrsimulations.com/tacpack.php - that adds a combat element, but no idea if that will ever come to MSFS. I suspect not.

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                                    @dc1973 guess I need to get a pc to get the full function then. Does the current f15 and f14 have a radar mode to see other planes in the air. Have not been able to makes heads or tails? Or is this something coming later when the weapons will actually do more then be visualized

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                                    @currator Radar is not yet active in MSFS, although I do think some devs have got it working in some limited way.

                                    As Derek says, there will never be live weapons on Xbox MSFS, due to the game's PEGI-3 rating.

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                                      @currator Radar is not yet active in MSFS, although I do think some devs have got it working in some limited way.

                                      As Derek says, there will never be live weapons on Xbox MSFS, due to the game's PEGI-3 rating.

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                                      @dc1973 I was referring to weapons on pc as you said yet in () marks

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                                        @dc1973 I was referring to weapons on pc as you said yet in () marks

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                                        @currator
                                        You can see weapons on PC, you can load them up and they affect handling, but you can't fight with them.

                                        If you buy a PC version through MS Marketplace (or Steam) you don't get to see or load any weapons.
                                        Same goes for an XBox version - you can't see them.

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                                          @currator
                                          You can see weapons on PC, you can load them up and they affect handling, but you can't fight with them.

                                          If you buy a PC version through MS Marketplace (or Steam) you don't get to see or load any weapons.
                                          Same goes for an XBox version - you can't see them.

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                                          @derek but if they are bought 3rd party you can see them and no other further plans

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