The Mongols are back!



  • Hi there. Thank you for your last update. But an old problem still remains. British airports are full of MIAT Mongolian Airlines airplanes which fly routes in Europe, mainly to Greece, Spain, Portugal and Turkey. This was in former TG versions, too. I think, MIAT Mongolian has to be replaced by British Airways, Tui Air, Jet2com, Ryan Air or so. I will edit the flight plans manually now.


  • JF Staff

    @Manuc

    There is a very long thread running where I asked about these mystery Mongolian airlines and I'm afraid I was unable to get a straight answer. If you think this is a bug and you would like us to look into it, please raise a support ticket. Ideally, we could do with a screenshot of the offending plane and to know aircraft type, day, time and location. We can then see which flight plan and which flight it is.



  • I cannot say anything on this, I was told I was an idiot when pointing out faults and issues in TG and this was one of them, I have not download or installed this new version but have installed my own old Database with over 42,000 plans and no Mongolian airlines.
    But for P3Dv5 users the TG AirportFacilities folder is not compatible with V5 airports and is unlikely to be corrected as the program was made for FSX and P3D but not the P3Dv5 ADE BGL format.


  • JF Staff

    @Ray-Fry

    "I was told I was an idiot when pointing out faults and issues in TG …"

    Not by us, but you did mention Mongolian Airlines - in the thread I alluded to above. So, if you can recall where/when and with what aircraft you saw them, then letting us know those details would enable us to resolve the matter one way or another.



  • I could not get my head round why JF uses and database the TG has no livery's for hence so many errors in the log, That I may add is now removed from the main screen as users complained about the errors, but can still be checked if you know where to look, you could filter out some error "Missing Airports" "Unavailable Parking" that has now been removed in other words one step forwards and two steps backwards. As for the future it is now well know on the web what JF`s attitude is to FSX and P3D a product that is no longer relevant.


  • JF Staff

    @Ray-Fry

    Nowhere in your post can I find out where or when these Mongolian aeroplanes are flying. I guess they will have to continue plying their busy trade in the Traffic Global skies.

    As for the future, it is also "well known on the web" that the moon landings were fake and 5G masts cause Covid.



  • Thats correct they don`t fly along with loads of other airlines that have no livery's so why include them?????. It just adds more airlines that do not show in the sim in other words pointless.


  • JF Staff

    @Ray-Fry said in The Mongols are back!:

    Thats correct they don`t fly along with loads of other airlines that have no livery's so why include them?????. It just adds more airlines that do not show in the sim in other words pointless.

    I don't understand. If they don't fly, what is the problem? Are they sat at the gates, maybe? If so, which gates and when?

    Meanwhile, the OP wrote:

    "British airports are full of MIAT Mongolian Airlines airplanes which fly routes in Europe, mainly to Greece, Spain, Portugal and Turkey."

    ?



  • Ok. I have to correct myself. It sesms, that the MIAT flights are in the schedule only, not at the airports and not flying. I checked some british airports and the traffic is ok there, no MIAT. So we can close this thread? Sorry for making such a mess.



  • The MAIT Mongolian plans should be TUI plans. There are 4 TUI models available, a 737-800, and 757 a 787-800 and a 787-900. Why they have been substituted by MAIT is a mystery only the programmers at TG can answer.

    It you have time and can be bothered you can manually change each plan to the correct aircraft, but the customer should not be expected to amend such an obvious oversight by the supplier! This is simply a lack of attention to detail by Just Flight.



  • @Derek
    They don`t fly or exist in TG if you used TG you would know this. The OP may not be aware they do not compile and just end up as an error in the log.
    And Derek check out the reply from JF too a P3D product that has be cancelled to a user when asking when it will be released. JF words not mine.


  • JF Staff

    @Lockheed-lad

    I am not sure this is an 'oversight' - as you can see from the thread above (and the other one) I have repeatedly asked for some clarity on this issue and not really got any. As I have hopefully proved for the last couple of years - if we are made aware of an issue, we can fix it.

    As far as the database works, it is a glorified spreadsheet that is sourced from the leading supplier of such things. Among other things, it lists flights, times, airline, aircraft type etc. From this information the flight plans are created. It's a fairly automatic process, so the chances of a typo (ie, fat fingers substituting Mongolian for TUI) are unlikely and would probably affect a lot of flights.
    One of the issues we have come across is code-sharing and this can sometimes mean that the airline in the database doesn't match the one you'd expect to see. This may be the issue here, or it may be something else.

    If you want to 'fix it' yourself, you are more than welcome. If you want us to fix it (which I'd much prefer) please, please raise a support ticket with all the details and we can look into it.


  • JF Staff

    @Ray-Fry

    "And Derek check out the reply from JF too a P3D product that has be cancelled to a user when asking when it will be released. JF words not mine."

    F-28 not coming to P3D.
    A300 coming to P3D.
    Tornado F3, just came to P3D
    Update to TG, just came to P3D.

    ?



  • @Derek
    You can ask JF what a 318 is, TG cannot find it and returns an error and then we may see less of this.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/51328947532/in/dateposted-public/
    Any aircraft or livery that cannot be found ends up in the error log and there are thousands.


  • JF Staff

    @Ray-Fry said in The Mongols are back!:

    @Derek
    You can ask JF what a 318 is, TG cannot find it and returns an error and then we may see less of this.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/51328947532/in/dateposted-public/
    Any aircraft or livery that cannot be found ends up in the error log and there are thousands.

    That's the way the program works. The log.txt shouldn't affect users. Perhaps all the 318s are parked up in Ulan Bator?



  • @Derek
    Veering off of the OP's subject somewhat but...

    I asked Rich about why there was no A318 model in TG way back when on the EA forum and he did give an explanation but, of course, now I've lost all the historical data I kept, I can't recall the reason (though I have some vague idea that it was something to do with the A319).

    Over to Rich?



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