Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo Config



  • Re: Honeycomb Alpha Yoke and Bravo Throttle Configuration

    I’ll be getting my Alpha and Bravo from Honeycomb set up in a few hours and I’m trying to figure out to correctly configure them for the Piper Arrow III (and both Turbo III and IV) under MSFS 2020.

    Any tips, tricks, and pitfalls, that I should try/avoid? Could someone who went through this already share their config?

    Thanks in advance!



  • I can't say anything about the Bravo as I don't have mine yet (though hopefully getting mine this week- fingers crossed!), but for the Alpha, here are some things to know:

    • For the lights/electrics, there are two ways to configure it. Using SET, or ON/OFF.
      • With SET (the default), a switch flipped up will send a SET command to the sim, essentially holding the light on. When switched down, the switch will stop sending the SET command, so the sim will turn the light off. This sometimes results in a flicker when turning the light on.
      • With ON/OFF, a switch sends an ON command when flipped on and an OFF command when flipped off. This means no flicker, but for some reason it doesn't work with the NAV lights or beacon light. JF are aware of this but I think there's something weird going on with the sim here. To use this mode, delete all lights and electrics bindings, and then re-assign them to the ON/OFF commands instead.
    • I use all default sensitivity settings except for the pitch, where I have set -30% sensitivity. I feel this gives more control on landing
    • By default the hat switch on the yoke only lets you look left and right. I found it useful to bind all 8 directions to the 8 quickview directions (i.e. up_left to "left 45deg", down_left to "left 120deg", etc) The "up" direction is particularly useful for looking over the nose.


  • @vcapra1 Thanks. Will take a look at my config. Re the HAT switch, I use TrackIR so I’ll actually remove those binds and assign them to something else.

    I have 2 questions about the on/off switches (same on Alpha and Bravo):

    1. How should I properly add the parking brake to them? I think there’s only a “set” command for it.

    2. Any ideas on how to bind the 3-stage fuel pump from the Turbo Arrows to 2 separate switches? 1 would be Fuel Low and Off and the 2 would be Fuel High and Off.



  • @Moridin
    I am also using TrackIR, but I am still using the hat switch to look right and left. Actually I did not bind the 90° left/right views to the left/right positions of the hat switch, but the 3/4 views. That way, if I want to look right or left, I simply hold that hat switch direction and am still able to use head movement to fine tune the view. It's far more convenient for my as I don't put so much stress on my neck when trying to look through the side windows.

    You might want to subscribe to this Rmag's YT channel. He has a lot of tips and tricks for setting up the Bravo, including the parking brake, if I'm not mistaken.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/Rmag/videos

    I'm curious to know what others think of the Bravo trim wheel in combination with JF planes. With the Arrow, the Bravo trim only increases/decreases the trim in tiny tiny increments, so I have to roll the trim wheel like at least 5 complete 360s to get the plane from takeoff trim to level trim. That's really not happening with Asobo planes.

    However for the Alpha yoke, I've seen a couple of persons suggesting to use linear sensitivity. With the Pipers from JF, I feel like the pitch control is far too mushy with linear sensitivity. Roll is perfectly fine, but with pitch I constantly have to make aggressive changes with my pitch to hold level flight (like +/- 2 inches in every direction). So I've set my pitch sensitivity for the JF planes to +25, that helps a little bit. On default Asobo planes, I use a pitch sensitivity of -50.



  • @petze said in Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo Config:

    @Moridin
    I am also using TrackIR, but I am still using the hat switch to look right and left. Actually I did not bind the 90° left/right views to the left/right positions of the hat switch, but the 3/4 views. That way, if I want to look right or left, I simply hold that hat switch direction and am still able to use head movement to fine tune the view. It's far more convenient for my as I don't put so much stress on my neck when trying to look through the side windows.

    Nice idea. Will test.

    You might want to subscribe to this Rmag's YT channel. He has a lot of tips and tricks for setting up the Bravo, including the parking brake, if I'm not mistaken.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/Rmag/videos

    Already subscribed a few days ago. Parking brake added. 🖖🏻

    I'm curious to know what others think of the Bravo trim wheel in combination with JF planes. With the Arrow, the Bravo trim only increases/decreases the trim in tiny tiny increments, so I have to roll the trim wheel like at least 5 complete 360s to get the plane from takeoff trim to level trim. That's really not happening with Asobo planes.

    I don’t need to trim as much as you. I love the current setting. So much easier to fine tune than using the trim on the Alpha yoke.

    However for the Alpha yoke, I've seen a couple of persons suggesting to use linear sensitivity. With the Pipers from JF, I feel like the pitch control is far too mushy with linear sensitivity. Roll is perfectly fine, but with pitch I constantly have to make aggressive changes with my pitch to hold level flight (like +/- 2 inches in every direction). So I've set my pitch sensitivity for the JF planes to +25, that helps a little bit. On default Asobo planes, I use a pitch sensitivity of -50.

    Weird. I don’t need to do that. I just got both the Alpha and Bravo 2-3 days ago, so maybe different firmware or calibration?



  • Current problems in Arrow III Turbo:

    • Set Electric Fuel Pump 1 not working correctly (reversed; on is off, off is on)
    • no idea how to set radio and panel lights so I don’t have to use my mouse