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One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack

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    Cristi Neagu
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    Hello,

    Would be nice to have an option to choose a modern radio stack capable of 8.33khz spacing. The old radios do have a charm of their own, but i think they would be exchanged for newer technology, especially if the plane is going to do any sort of IFR work.

    And yes, i know they can be tuned to any FS frequency by choosing it from the ATC menu.

    Thank you.

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      Cristi Neagu
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      Actually, this can be easily mitigated by allowing for a GNS530+430 combo. They are already present in the sim, they are also modeled, so it would be the easiest way to add modern radios to the PA-28.

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        Not sure if you saw this one :)

        https://twitter.com/JustFlight/status/1380174113965236224

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          https://pms50.com/msfs/

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            Not sure if you saw this one :)

            https://twitter.com/JustFlight/status/1380174113965236224

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            Cristi Neagu
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            @theissondergaard I did, thanks, but that still has one of the classic radios. So this would need the addition of a GTN650, which would need a new VC cockpit model for the 650, not to mention that i don't think we actually have a GTN650... So it would arguably be more work than adding a 430 alongside the 530, i would think. That's not to say that the 750/650 shouldn't be added.

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              Ah ok.

              Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated, but perhaps I'm not doing sufficiently complicated IFR flights :) I find the combo of a 530 and an old-fashioned com2/nav2 pretty great.

              One of my favorite things about the JF Piper is the ability to adjust the avionics stack, so I think your suggestion of a 530/430 combo is very good.

              Also, if you're a heavy user of the 530, I can really recommend getting the RealSimGear hardware unit, if you don't already have it - it's expensive at $450 (with a stand), but it's worth saving up for :D

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                In addition to the GNS 430/530, you'll soon have the option of the PMS50 GTN 750 too.

                PA28_MSFS_080421_1.jpg

                PA28_MSFS_080421_2.jpg

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                  In addition to the GNS 430/530, you'll soon have the option of the PMS50 GTN 750 too.

                  PA28_MSFS_080421_1.jpg

                  PA28_MSFS_080421_2.jpg

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                  @Martyn Excellent addition. Only wondering what "soon" might mean... ;)

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                    In addition to the GNS 430/530, you'll soon have the option of the PMS50 GTN 750 too.

                    PA28_MSFS_080421_1.jpg

                    PA28_MSFS_080421_2.jpg

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                    @Martyn said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                    In addition to the GNS 430/530

                    "GNS430 or 530", or "GNS430 and 530"? :D
                    Don't get me wrong, i think adding the 750 is absolutely great. But i would like to see an option for having both the 530 and 430 on at the same time, with the 430 replacing the second COM/NAV unit.

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                      Ah ok.

                      Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated, but perhaps I'm not doing sufficiently complicated IFR flights :) I find the combo of a 530 and an old-fashioned com2/nav2 pretty great.

                      One of my favorite things about the JF Piper is the ability to adjust the avionics stack, so I think your suggestion of a 530/430 combo is very good.

                      Also, if you're a heavy user of the 530, I can really recommend getting the RealSimGear hardware unit, if you don't already have it - it's expensive at $450 (with a stand), but it's worth saving up for :D

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                      @theissondergaard said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                      Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated

                      For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.

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                        Waw! This I didn't know and are super good news!

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                          @theissondergaard said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                          Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated

                          For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.

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                          @Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                          For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.

                          Using v0.3.0, I'm able to listen to both COM1 and COM2 at the same time. I'm currently listening to both Cambridge and Stansted ATIS.

                          COM.JPG

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                            @Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                            For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.

                            Using v0.3.0, I'm able to listen to both COM1 and COM2 at the same time. I'm currently listening to both Cambridge and Stansted ATIS.

                            COM.JPG

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                            Cristi Neagu
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                            @Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.

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                              @Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.

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                              @Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                              @Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.

                              It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.

                              Martyn - Development Manager

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                                @Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                                @Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.

                                It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.

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                                @Martyn, I am still unable to hear COM1 and COM2 at the same time... I can only hear COM2 when the MIC switch is in the COM2 position. I tried with both radio stacks.

                                I am testing it at KLAX with119.80 (Tower) tuned on COM1, and 133.80 (ATIS) tuned on COM 2...

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                                  @Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                                  @Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.

                                  It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.

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                                  @Martyn Tried at Heathrow, with COM2 on ATIS and MIC on COM1 on ground and i can't hear the ATIS.
                                  Interestingly, when i click the audio panel switch for COM1, i hear lots of clicking. Sounds like the sound you get when turning the GNS530 knobs. But i don't get this sound when clicking the COM2 switch. That sounds like a regular click.
                                  So... not sure how to explain this...
                                  Looks like every time something changes the COM1 state, i get knob clicks. AUTO has knob clicks with COM1 in the middle. MIC has knob clicks with either AUTO or COM1 away from middle.

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                                    @Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                                    @Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.

                                    It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.

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                                    @Martyn I have removed the GNS530 mod and i'm getting the exact same behaviour. Weird thing is that if i move MIC to COM2, go to the ATC panel and select ATIS for COM2, i hear the ATIS and the ATIS frequency disappears. This is with the COM2 switch on the audio panel set to PHONE. But if i move MIC to COM1 and change nothing else, i stop hearing COM2 and the ATIS frequencies pop back up in the ATC panel like i tuned COM2 to some other frequency. Looks like internally COM2 is losing its frequency. The exact same thing happens with COM1.

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                                      @Martyn, I am still unable to hear COM1 and COM2 at the same time... I can only hear COM2 when the MIC switch is in the COM2 position. I tried with both radio stacks.

                                      I am testing it at KLAX with119.80 (Tower) tuned on COM1, and 133.80 (ATIS) tuned on COM 2...

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                                      @RetiredMan93231 said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:

                                      @Martyn, I am still unable to hear COM1 and COM2 at the same time... I can only hear COM2 when the MIC switch is in the COM2 position. I tried with both radio stacks.

                                      I am testing it at KLAX with119.80 (Tower) tuned on COM1, and 133.80 (ATIS) tuned on COM 2...

                                      I can confirm that works fine here too so it looks like that should be addressed by the next update.

                                      Martyn - Development Manager

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                                        I must admit that a GNS 530/430 stack would be awesome!

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                                          I must admit that a GNS 530/430 stack would be awesome!

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                                          Cristi Neagu
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                                          @FrontSideBus Hopefully they decide to add it in for the next update.

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