One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack
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@Martyn Excellent addition. Only wondering what "soon" might mean... ;)
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@Martyn said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
In addition to the GNS 430/530
"GNS430 or 530", or "GNS430 and 530"? :D
Don't get me wrong, i think adding the 750 is absolutely great. But i would like to see an option for having both the 530 and 430 on at the same time, with the 430 replacing the second COM/NAV unit. -
Ah ok.
Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated, but perhaps I'm not doing sufficiently complicated IFR flights :) I find the combo of a 530 and an old-fashioned com2/nav2 pretty great.
One of my favorite things about the JF Piper is the ability to adjust the avionics stack, so I think your suggestion of a 530/430 combo is very good.
Also, if you're a heavy user of the 530, I can really recommend getting the RealSimGear hardware unit, if you don't already have it - it's expensive at $450 (with a stand), but it's worth saving up for :D
@theissondergaard said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated
For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.
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@theissondergaard said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
Personally, I haven't found a big need for having the second NAV/COM be very sophisticated
For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.
@Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.
Using v0.3.0, I'm able to listen to both COM1 and COM2 at the same time. I'm currently listening to both Cambridge and Stansted ATIS.
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@Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
For me it's mostly to do with the standby frequencies. Also, i would use the COM2 transceiver a lot more if not for the bugged audio panel which blocks me from listening to two frequencies at the same time.
Using v0.3.0, I'm able to listen to both COM1 and COM2 at the same time. I'm currently listening to both Cambridge and Stansted ATIS.
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@Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.
@Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
@Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.
It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.
Martyn - Development Manager
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@Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
@Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.
It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.
@Martyn, I am still unable to hear COM1 and COM2 at the same time... I can only hear COM2 when the MIC switch is in the COM2 position. I tried with both radio stacks.
I am testing it at KLAX with119.80 (Tower) tuned on COM1, and 133.80 (ATIS) tuned on COM 2...
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@Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
@Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.
It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.
@Martyn Tried at Heathrow, with COM2 on ATIS and MIC on COM1 on ground and i can't hear the ATIS.
Interestingly, when i click the audio panel switch for COM1, i hear lots of clicking. Sounds like the sound you get when turning the GNS530 knobs. But i don't get this sound when clicking the COM2 switch. That sounds like a regular click.
So... not sure how to explain this...
Looks like every time something changes the COM1 state, i get knob clicks. AUTO has knob clicks with COM1 in the middle. MIC has knob clicks with either AUTO or COM1 away from middle. -
@Cristi-Neagu said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
@Martyn Can you please try with the GNS530? I'll try with the classic radio stack asap.
It's working correctly here using the GNS 530 too.
@Martyn I have removed the GNS530 mod and i'm getting the exact same behaviour. Weird thing is that if i move MIC to COM2, go to the ATC panel and select ATIS for COM2, i hear the ATIS and the ATIS frequency disappears. This is with the COM2 switch on the audio panel set to PHONE. But if i move MIC to COM1 and change nothing else, i stop hearing COM2 and the ATIS frequencies pop back up in the ATC panel like i tuned COM2 to some other frequency. Looks like internally COM2 is losing its frequency. The exact same thing happens with COM1.
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@Martyn, I am still unable to hear COM1 and COM2 at the same time... I can only hear COM2 when the MIC switch is in the COM2 position. I tried with both radio stacks.
I am testing it at KLAX with119.80 (Tower) tuned on COM1, and 133.80 (ATIS) tuned on COM 2...
@RetiredMan93231 said in One for the wishlist: Modern radio stack:
@Martyn, I am still unable to hear COM1 and COM2 at the same time... I can only hear COM2 when the MIC switch is in the COM2 position. I tried with both radio stacks.
I am testing it at KLAX with119.80 (Tower) tuned on COM1, and 133.80 (ATIS) tuned on COM 2...
I can confirm that works fine here too so it looks like that should be addressed by the next update.
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I must admit that a GNS 530/430 stack would be awesome!
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I must admit that a GNS 530/430 stack would be awesome!
@FrontSideBus Hopefully they decide to add it in for the next update.
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@Martyn Really glad to see you're picking up the GTN750 development!
I wonder what was the consideration to put the GPS 100 aside of it.
Doesn't seem like a useful stack to me and I'd rather like to have the setup like the GNS530 and either a larger GTN750 screen (not sure if they are built larger) or simply a cover for the bottom slot which otherwise is occupied by the transponder.Anyway, looking forward to try it out. :)
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Same here, very excited to see the GTN750 in the Piper :)
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It does look very nice but a little odd. You've spent a lot of money getting a GTN750 installed but have penny pinched on leaving the old nav/com 2 radio and ADF :) Would be cool to have the option of more modern units to go with the GTN.
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It does look very nice but a little odd. You've spent a lot of money getting a GTN750 installed but have penny pinched on leaving the old nav/com 2 radio and ADF :) Would be cool to have the option of more modern units to go with the GTN.
@FrontSideBus Yeah, i'd rather get a GNS530+430 stack than a single GTN750 with those antique radios...
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Best thing imo is to have different options as there are different tastes and preferences out there... for me, to have the old radios plus old GPS is absolutely OK, but I prefer to go with the GNS530 option (modded, of course)... If they come up with a GTN750 option I will rather go with it for sure, and I could maybe switch back to the GNS530 if I could have the option to pare it with a 430 as secondary NAV/COM...
I personally prefer to have modern systems in an old airplane than flying with vintage, old looking instruments... but sure thing there is a lot of people out there that prefer just the opposite... the more options Just Flight is able to offer the more people is going to be potentially interested in their products...
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Best thing imo is to have different options as there are different tastes and preferences out there... for me, to have the old radios plus old GPS is absolutely OK, but I prefer to go with the GNS530 option (modded, of course)... If they come up with a GTN750 option I will rather go with it for sure, and I could maybe switch back to the GNS530 if I could have the option to pare it with a 430 as secondary NAV/COM...
I personally prefer to have modern systems in an old airplane than flying with vintage, old looking instruments... but sure thing there is a lot of people out there that prefer just the opposite... the more options Just Flight is able to offer the more people is going to be potentially interested in their products...
@RaulKO Indeed, having the options is a very good feature of the JF Arrow!
Sometimes it's nice to not have GPS and just old-school it. Quite satisfying doing old school vor-vor flights and doing your own DME arcs ect. -
Best thing imo is to have different options as there are different tastes and preferences out there... for me, to have the old radios plus old GPS is absolutely OK, but I prefer to go with the GNS530 option (modded, of course)... If they come up with a GTN750 option I will rather go with it for sure, and I could maybe switch back to the GNS530 if I could have the option to pare it with a 430 as secondary NAV/COM...
I personally prefer to have modern systems in an old airplane than flying with vintage, old looking instruments... but sure thing there is a lot of people out there that prefer just the opposite... the more options Just Flight is able to offer the more people is going to be potentially interested in their products...
@RaulKO For me the perfect combo is the 530+430. The 750+650 are a bit too modern for my tastes. I see why people like them, they have a very easy to use touchscreen interface. But the GNS dual combo gives me all the functionailty i need in a pretty cool package. That's one of the reasons i made the suggestion above. The second is that it seems to me to be the easiest way of adding a relatively modern avionics stack in the Arrow. Both the 530 and the 430 are already modeled in cockpit. I think that all JF needs to do is change some configuration files and make some changes to the EFB. It's probably more complicated than that, but i would have thought it's easier than modelling the 750 and the 650. Either way, it looks like they already modeled the 750, so that's pretty good. I hope they do manage to add the 530+430 option too.
And yeah, i agree. The more options, the better.
