Greaser Landing Possible?
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Sorry to bring back an old thread, but I'm still having trouble with this. I've tried with several different power settings on touchdown, many many many times and only pulled off a no-bounce landing like twice.
Then I decided to watch youtube videos to see how other, more experienced people were getting good landings. And I couldn't find one. Can someone link a video of a no-bounce landing, or perhaps upload one of their own?
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In VR, I find it almost trivial to grease the landings. It's much easier when you know exactly what the attitude of the aircraft is and where it is in relation to the runway. (I also use a force-feedback yoke with decent travel and linear "sensitivity". The Arrow definitely makes me work harder than the default planes, I need almost the whole range of the yoke when landing, which isn't the case with other aircraft.)
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@vcapra1 The turn to final was way too soon but the landing was ok.
https://youtu.be/xkc1DJlQj2Q
@BernieV What yoke do you use? After about a month of attempts (probably like 3 or 400 landings) with various sensitivity settings, approach speeds, and techniques, I still bounce like 99% of the time. I'm using the Honeycomb alpha and can land other GA planes (152, 172, etc) without bounce with ease.
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@BernieV What yoke do you use? After about a month of attempts (probably like 3 or 400 landings) with various sensitivity settings, approach speeds, and techniques, I still bounce like 99% of the time. I'm using the Honeycomb alpha and can land other GA planes (152, 172, etc) without bounce with ease.
@vcapra1 I use a Saitek yoke, throttle/rpm/mixture, and rudder peddles. I also use three monitors driven by an Nvidia RTX 3080. The image on the side monitors becomes more distorted the further from center you go, but they help considerably during landing by providing peripheral cues.
To be honest, even with 25 years flying an Arrow, I still get surprised at times when I touch down indicating I was not where I thought I was relative to the runway. Those tend to be "firm" and "flat" (all three gear touching down at the same time more or less) arrivals. The lighter the plane, the harder it is to grease a landing IMHO.
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@vcapra1 I use a Saitek yoke, throttle/rpm/mixture, and rudder peddles. I also use three monitors driven by an Nvidia RTX 3080. The image on the side monitors becomes more distorted the further from center you go, but they help considerably during landing by providing peripheral cues.
To be honest, even with 25 years flying an Arrow, I still get surprised at times when I touch down indicating I was not where I thought I was relative to the runway. Those tend to be "firm" and "flat" (all three gear touching down at the same time more or less) arrivals. The lighter the plane, the harder it is to grease a landing IMHO.
As you begin to flare, close the throttle and shift your focus to the end of the runway. Pitch to keep the nose of the aircraft ever so slightly above the end of the runway. Keep the center line under your right foot. As the airspeed slows to the bottom of the white arc you will settle onto the runway. Hold the nosewheel off. As AirSpeed continues to diminish, the nose wheel will settle onto the runway.
This is the sight picture you're looking for right before the mains touchdown.
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As you begin to flare, close the throttle and shift your focus to the end of the runway. Pitch to keep the nose of the aircraft ever so slightly above the end of the runway. Keep the center line under your right foot. As the airspeed slows to the bottom of the white arc you will settle onto the runway. Hold the nosewheel off. As AirSpeed continues to diminish, the nose wheel will settle onto the runway.
This is the sight picture you're looking for right before the mains touchdown.
@BernieV Thanks, I will continue to try
I've noticed that if I release back pressure the instant I contact the ground, it reduces or removes the bounce, but that usually ends up slamming the nose wheel into the ground. I suppose there is a balance somewhere between the two that I need to find