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Raise or Lower Water Rudder

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  • Black SquareB Offline
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    Black Square
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    Any change you're currently seeing is actually due to a bug in MSFS 2024, or really it's an undocumented change from MSFS 2020. You can find more details in the other topic water steering on water. You make a good suggestion. I think I would have to add a tablet option like I have in the Duke, "Use hardware events to control water rudder", but this would also negate the water rudder failure that I have implemented too. I figure it's a good compromise. I will see about adding this soon. Thanks for the suggestion!

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      MichaelMacKuen
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      Thanks for your consideration.

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        Daytona125
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        I would also like to see a key bind or an axis bind for the water rudders, using the scroll wheel on the mouse is cumbersome, especially in VR.

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          Just in case you are using something like Axis-and-Ohs:
          Axis
          L:var_WaterRudderHandle, bool
          Water Rudder on
          100·(>L:var_WaterRudderHandle,·bool)
          Water Rudder off
          0·(>L:var_WaterRudderHandle,·bool)
          For Toggle you could use „Toggle_Water_Rudder“ can be found unter „Miscellaneous Aircraft Misc Events“

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            I don't know what others would prefer but I really think the amphib needs to be able to use the standard "toggle water rudder" command. I'm on msfs2020 and nothing seems to work to keep the rudders down persistently. If I use the standard key bind, the pump light flashes twice, and for a split second it's obvious the additional steering is there, then it's gone. If I try to use the lever in the cockpit by clicking on it, it descend all the way then immediately goes back up. In both cases the rudders never visually change from the up position. Until there's a coded (update) solution, is there anything we can change manually in the aircraft files to work around this?

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            • Black SquareB Black Square

              Any change you're currently seeing is actually due to a bug in MSFS 2024, or really it's an undocumented change from MSFS 2020. You can find more details in the other topic water steering on water. You make a good suggestion. I think I would have to add a tablet option like I have in the Duke, "Use hardware events to control water rudder", but this would also negate the water rudder failure that I have implemented too. I figure it's a good compromise. I will see about adding this soon. Thanks for the suggestion!

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              @Black-Square said in Raise or Lower Water Rudder:

              Any change you're currently seeing is actually due to a bug in MSFS 2024, or really it's an undocumented change from MSFS 2020. You can find more details in the other topic water steering on water. You make a good suggestion. I think I would have to add a tablet option like I have in the Duke, "Use hardware events to control water rudder", but this would also negate the water rudder failure that I have implemented too. I figure it's a good compromise. I will see about adding this soon. Thanks for the suggestion!

              Water rudder button assignment works on the new SWS Kodiak 100 – FS2024.

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                Just to be clear, it's not the water rudder key bind that's a MSFS 2024 issue. The problem was that a water rudder extension time of zero worked for instantaneous deployment in MSFS 2020, but prevented the gear from moving at all in MSFS 2024. I will add a toggle to disable the water rudder failure and allow the native key binding to work in the next update.

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                  Just to be clear, it's not the water rudder key bind that's a MSFS 2024 issue. The problem was that a water rudder extension time of zero worked for instantaneous deployment in MSFS 2020, but prevented the gear from moving at all in MSFS 2024. I will add a toggle to disable the water rudder failure and allow the native key binding to work in the next update.

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                  @Black-Square said in Raise or Lower Water Rudder:

                  Just to be clear, it's not the water rudder key bind that's a MSFS 2024 issue. The problem was that a water rudder extension time of zero worked for instantaneous deployment in MSFS 2020, but prevented the gear from moving at all in MSFS 2024. I will add a toggle to disable the water rudder failure and allow the native key binding to work in the next update.

                  Sorry, the new SWS Kodiak 100 – FS2024 water rudder assignment allows operate the water rudder up and down.

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                      @Black-Square said in Raise or Lower Water Rudder:

                      Just to be clear, it's not the water rudder key bind that's a MSFS 2024 issue. The problem was that a water rudder extension time of zero worked for instantaneous deployment in MSFS 2020, but prevented the gear from moving at all in MSFS 2024. I will add a toggle to disable the water rudder failure and allow the native key binding to work in the next update.

                      Sorry, the new SWS Kodiak 100 – FS2024 water rudder assignment allows operate the water rudder up and down.

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                      Black Square
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                      @aeysim I am aware. I'm describing an issue from another thread that resulted from an undocumented change in MSFS 2024. I know exactly what the solution would be to allow the native keybind to work at the expense of one of my custom failures, and I said that I would do this for the next update.

                      EDIT: Actually, I came up with a more elegant way of implementing this as I began to code it that should be seamless and still allow for the failure.

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                        Ok. Thank you.

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