Missing glass on instruments
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@Black-Square I would like to ask — and also kindly request — whether the upcoming update will address the glass effect and instrument reflections on the cockpit gauges, as this is currently something that is noticeably missing from the overall visual experience.
I understand what the developer previously mentioned: that there are limitations on the Asobo Studio side regarding this aspect, and that this issue may not be resolved until those limitations are addressed. However, it is also visible that since release, the developers of Microsoft Flight Simulator have not really focused on this problem, and in my personal opinion, they are unlikely to do so in the future.
For this reason, I would like to ask the Caravan developer to consider implementing their own solution for instrument glass effects and reflections. Even an interim or custom solution would significantly enhance immersion and visual quality for users, at least until — or if ever — Asobo addresses this limitation.
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We've been discussing this on the developer forums for a while. Asobo made an undocumented change that required us to change or glass materials, and they still do not appear to be working as they once did in MSFS 2020. Hopefully we will see some movement on this soon.
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@Black-Square Quick question, are you still waiting on Asobo to change something or are you working on something on your side?
@StefanL85 I'm planning on looking into it before my next round of updates. I had some promising tests that produced results somewhere between the two examples posted here, which I think might be a good compromise between almost no reflections, and not being able to see the instruments.
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@StefanL85 I'm planning on looking into it before my next round of updates. I had some promising tests that produced results somewhere between the two examples posted here, which I think might be a good compromise between almost no reflections, and not being able to see the instruments.
@Black-Square that's great news! Thank you.
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@batkizoltan @kityatyi @RealPax @StefanL85 @Zacke
Hello everyone. I hesitate to wake this subject again, but has anyone here experienced the glass in the Commander 114 yet, and would they like to render an opinion? This is one case where my preferences are not necessarily aligned with the broader community, so it's difficult for me to judge what everyone is looking for.
I'm looking to know what you think before I go and add the 114's glass effect to all my other aircraft in MSFS 2024. Thank you!
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@batkizoltan @kityatyi @RealPax @StefanL85 @Zacke
Hello everyone. I hesitate to wake this subject again, but has anyone here experienced the glass in the Commander 114 yet, and would they like to render an opinion? This is one case where my preferences are not necessarily aligned with the broader community, so it's difficult for me to judge what everyone is looking for.
I'm looking to know what you think before I go and add the 114's glass effect to all my other aircraft in MSFS 2024. Thank you!
@Black-Square please add this effect. IMO it's look much more real.
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@batkizoltan @kityatyi @RealPax @StefanL85 @Zacke
Hello everyone. I hesitate to wake this subject again, but has anyone here experienced the glass in the Commander 114 yet, and would they like to render an opinion? This is one case where my preferences are not necessarily aligned with the broader community, so it's difficult for me to judge what everyone is looking for.
I'm looking to know what you think before I go and add the 114's glass effect to all my other aircraft in MSFS 2024. Thank you!
First, I am glad that you are confident enough to assume I did purchase the commander. You have been right in my case.
Just kidding I guess it is almost 100% sure I will purchase everything you will release without even thinking about.Regarding the glass effect. I wasn’t unhappy with the way it is currently on the other planes as it will give better visibility. This said the version you are using in the commander does it as well for me.
I would be fine if every plane would have the same effect.
One thing I noticed, f.e. in the caravan the glass effect was visible on the 2nd/3rd screen but not on the primary screen right in front of me.
With the commander this is exactly the opposite. The glass effect is visible on the primary screen but not on the secondary screens.
Nothing I am concerned about but worth mentioning. -
The glass looks great in the Commander! Expanding that to the rest of the fleet would be amazing.
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@batkizoltan @kityatyi @RealPax @StefanL85 @Zacke
Hello everyone. I hesitate to wake this subject again, but has anyone here experienced the glass in the Commander 114 yet, and would they like to render an opinion? This is one case where my preferences are not necessarily aligned with the broader community, so it's difficult for me to judge what everyone is looking for.
I'm looking to know what you think before I go and add the 114's glass effect to all my other aircraft in MSFS 2024. Thank you!
@Black-Square Thank's for circling back on this. It's a huge improvement for me. I am eager to enjoy this in your other products I purchased.
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Thanks everyone. Your preferences baffle me, but your wish it my command
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Thanks everyone. Your preferences baffle me, but your wish it my command
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@Black-Square I, for one, am not looking forward to this change. Not once have I thought, that the guages need to be more reflective and more difficult to read. But I will also reserve judgement until I actually see what it looks like.
@ploodovic I know you've been commenting recently, but do you have the 114? That's what I'm going for with the other aircraft, but it's very difficult for me to judge, since, like you, I vastly prefer the low reflection material.
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@ploodovic I know you've been commenting recently, but do you have the 114? That's what I'm going for with the other aircraft, but it's very difficult for me to judge, since, like you, I vastly prefer the low reflection material.
@Black-Square I do not have the 114 (yet), since I’m dependent on its marketplace release. Just wanted to put a vote in for practicality over realism.
As I said, I will reserve judgement until I see it, maybe it’s completely fine. I trust your ability to find a middle ground between differing opinions.
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@Black-Square I do not have the 114 (yet), since I’m dependent on its marketplace release. Just wanted to put a vote in for practicality over realism.
As I said, I will reserve judgement until I see it, maybe it’s completely fine. I trust your ability to find a middle ground between differing opinions.
@ploodovic For what it's worth, I'm all for low reflection, easy to read gauges, and everything in the 114 is great for me -- hopefully you'll feel the same when you see it on other parts of the fleet.
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@ploodovic @Black-Square I may as well chime in with my 2 cents. I do not mind increased reflections, they can be a pain IRL for reading gauges, but you obviously can't block a reflection in the sim like you can IRL. The way it is implemented on the 114 appears to look good while still providing readability which is a happy compromise.
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@batkizoltan @kityatyi @RealPax @StefanL85 @Zacke
Hello everyone. I hesitate to wake this subject again, but has anyone here experienced the glass in the Commander 114 yet, and would they like to render an opinion? This is one case where my preferences are not necessarily aligned with the broader community, so it's difficult for me to judge what everyone is looking for.
I'm looking to know what you think before I go and add the 114's glass effect to all my other aircraft in MSFS 2024. Thank you!
@Black-Square I also prefer no reflections, I never missed them in any of your aircrafts. But I don't have access to the Commander, so I can't be sure.
I'm concerned because I despise the default Cessna 172 reflections in MSFS. It breaks the immersion all the time. And I saw some developers hiding them by zooming in or blurry them, but resulting in the reflections to be low quality or pixelated.
Is that the case here? Are these reflections pixelated or they look good?
Because if the Cessna 172 is not showing, and reflections are good quality and matches the rest of the cockpit, then they're fine!!
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@Black-Square I also prefer no reflections, I never missed them in any of your aircrafts. But I don't have access to the Commander, so I can't be sure.
I'm concerned because I despise the default Cessna 172 reflections in MSFS. It breaks the immersion all the time. And I saw some developers hiding them by zooming in or blurry them, but resulting in the reflections to be low quality or pixelated.
Is that the case here? Are these reflections pixelated or they look good?
Because if the Cessna 172 is not showing, and reflections are good quality and matches the rest of the cockpit, then they're fine!!
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@Black-Square I also prefer no reflections, I never missed them in any of your aircrafts. But I don't have access to the Commander, so I can't be sure.
I'm concerned because I despise the default Cessna 172 reflections in MSFS. It breaks the immersion all the time. And I saw some developers hiding them by zooming in or blurry them, but resulting in the reflections to be low quality or pixelated.
Is that the case here? Are these reflections pixelated or they look good?
Because if the Cessna 172 is not showing, and reflections are good quality and matches the rest of the cockpit, then they're fine!!
@Canit said in Missing glass on instruments:
resulting in the reflections to be low quality or pixelated
This is one of the problems. Asobo added some different cockpit panoramas for us to choose from in MSFS 2024, but none of them are good options, in my opinion, and they seem to be about a quarter of the resolution of the MSFS 2020 one. They also changed something about the glass material that makes surface imperfections almost inseparable from the panorama reflections. Honestly (and this is exclusively a Nick opinion), I think they look horrible in MSFS 2024, but I will always do my best to make everyone happy. I'm tweaking every parameter and choosing different panoramas on a per-aircraft basis to get the best results. It seems that I've won over some of the anti-reflection crowd with the 114, and it's acceptable to me, so I think that's what I will try to do for the rest. Thank you all for your opinions.
