impossible to take off properly

Sender46

Make sure autopilot is off.
And that you are using the latest download (v0.3.0).

nasaspaceboy

I'm experiencing the same problem.

Dr_Gonzo

Are you using "Modern" or "Legacy" flight characteristics? You can find the option in the realism/difficulty settings on MSFS. The setting must be "Modern" for the JF PA28R to work as expected.

christian

hello I have exactly the same problem as described by " Quijote " with other planes it goes well I am on the " modern " flight features

Delta558

Have you set the controls to linear?

Pitch, Roll and Yaw axes:

Sensitivity - 0%
Sensitivity + 0%
Dead Zone 1%
Neutral 0%
Extremity Dead Zone 0%
Reactivity 100%

Save that as a profile and select it when you fly the Arrow - see if it makes a difference.

Barabba

Every other plane has this problem, but PA28R has it exaggerated.
Sample

(yes, it's Modern, no AP and so on...)

sluflyer06

@Derek said in impossible to take off properly:

@christian

https://support.justflight.com/support/solutions/articles/17000114904-why-is-the-aircraft-behaving-erratically-after-take-off-

This is not the problem, however the arrow flight model is tuned the MSFD weathervane effect on the tail is dramatically more severe than other aircraft in the sim both default and 3rd party, in a stiff crosswind you frequently cannot even keep it on the runway with full rudder input. Please assure us this defect is in-work, I think anyone at JF flying the arrow for testing in a solid crosswind during takeoff roll cannot deny what is going on.

theissondergaard

@sluflyer06 What kind of "stiff" crosswind are we talking about here? According to the interwebs, it seems that the Piper should not expected to take off safely in more than 17 knots crosswind.
Not saying it's not twitchy, I'd love for it to be easier to keep in the middle!

Kaukinen

Something there is different with C152, with it I have no problems, does it wind or not. But with this I'll always lose plane control on takeoff / landing.

BernieV

I was just trying take offs and landings in a 20 knot cross wind in the Arrow III. You need to use timely and appropriate rudder input and proper aileron deflection, but its not that far off from real life and doable. (Skip to 4:50 for an explanation of what I'm talking about regarding the use of ailerons in a cross wind takeoff. Video here.

I do find the rapid changes in direction of the aircraft from the weathervane effect as it approaches flying speed to be excessive. I have not done this in a stock MSFS aircraft, but I suspect its a sim issue and not a JF Arrow III issue. In reality, mishandling a crosswind takeoff tends to result at fist in a slow departure from the centerline that gets worse as you accelerate and approach flying speed. You need to make corrections early and with authority otherwise things will get out of hand quickly. Proper use of ailerons substantially reduces the amount of rudder needed for a crosswind takeoff or the rollout after a crosswind landing. I think the model underestimates the effectiveness of aileron in this case.

pdd

I have the exact same issue. The yaw is overly sensitive and almost impossible to control the plane when landing or taking off. It will sway wildly between left and right (not in a normal way, it works fine for other aircraft in msfs). I have flight model on "modern".

Nismo8787

Same issue here, it just want to roll left slightly the entire time in the air, my flight system is set to modern too :\

sluflyer06

@Nismo8787 wrong thread..

MrMinimal

We are seeing the same rudder kick during mild crosswinds. Modern flight model selected as well, don't have the problem in any other aircraft.

Bagpipe

@pdd set up a seperate controls profile for the arrow and adjust your sensitivity curves. I find the arrow to be much better than defaults asobo aircraft but the curves are different.

CherokeeCruiser

Just got the Arrow 3 last week and love it but I too am having this problem with realism setting to Modern. Landing is also difficult and the aircraft seems to porpoise a bit while on short final. Tried adjusting my controller sensitivity settings to no avail. I am a PPL SEL and have about 10 hours in a PA-28140B which is my closest real world experience but the 140B sure doesn't act like that!

christian

Hello I thought that agvec the last update the problem would be corrected ( or in part) but it is not the case and when cutting is very difficult to hold the axis of the track In these conditions I do not believe that I would buy the turbo IV

flyingsab

same here. downloaded the 0.4.0... impossible to fly the damn plane

moggel

@christian Assuming you are referring to the PA28 Arrow III I see the same issue.

FCYXL

Hello all, I 'll have got the 0.40a version, I'm on modern mode and I'm unable to take-off with the aircraft. Just for the information, I'hadn't install the MSFS in the default repertory, I used a repertory on a SSD.
And I've the same problem with another payware aircraft (TB20)and unfortunatly no trouble with free aircraft or usal MSFS Aircraft. I've all installed in Admin mode, MSFS is launched in admin too

Just my two pence