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    Phantoms
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    @Martyn Is there a program that will tell you exactly what is being commanded by each switch press? Logitech uses drivers so it's hard to see exactly what they are doing. But I do know in the default airplanes the switches work as they should. Bat On turns on the battery, battery off turns off the battery (master), etc.
    This is what the panel looks like and I just assumed that someone at JustFlight would of had one.

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    @Phantoms Spad.next is worth of trying. I use it for configuring Logitech flight devices. Yes it cost some money, but there is free 14 days demo for trying. OMHO, it is worth of money for Logitech users. And it can be used WITHOUT Logitech plugin drivers, some users have reported problems with it.

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    I’m 100% sure it will be fixed, anything else would be scandalous at this price. But give them time. The trend nowadays is to release unfinished products to let the paying customers be beta testers. But it will be fixed eventually.

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    replied to Kaukinen on last edited by Phantoms
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    @Kaukinen I did give Spad ago and didn't have much luck. My worry is even if I did get Spad working with the Arrow and everything set up and assigned, then I would also have to set it up with every single other aircraft which all work fine with the logitech drivers including the Mooney save it's fuel switch. That seems pretty daunting when it's just this one plane causing havoc with it.

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    No changes with the 0.3 update. Panel switches still not working correctly and conflicting with each other.

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    replied to Phantoms on last edited by RetiredMan93231
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    @Phantoms , You should be able to tell what commands each of the switches and buttons are are assigned to by first pressing [ESC] and opening the CONTROLS screen in MSFS. Then select the SEARCH BY INPUT box and just flip a switch to see what command it is currently assigned to.

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    replied to RetiredMan93231 on last edited by Phantoms
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    @RetiredMan93231 Unfortunately, Logitech/Saitek panels do not show in the controls so that method doesn't work. They are operated by drivers.

    This really takes away from the enjoyment of the Arrow and has turned me off to purchasing the Turbo Arrow when it comes out. The logitech panels are not like an extremely rare item. Once you get past yokes, joysticks, rudders and throttles then they are probably the next in terms of usage for MSFS.

    I know I could use Spad, but spad would involve programming the panel for each individual plane. It would also require doing so for my autopilot multi panel. Spad does not coexist with the logitech drivers. It is a hugely daunting task when the panels already have drivers for them that work all the default and deluxe planes correctly. They also work with the Carenado Mooney correctly too. If Just Flight can not get them to control the Arrow correctly, then that doesn't bode well for any future Just Flight purchases for me. @Cdr_Maverick

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    replied to HalalPilot on last edited by Cdr_Maverick
    #21

    "....Someone has already made a Piper Arrow setup for on Spad, so you can just "download" it and activate. I also have one that I made..."

    @HalalPilot could you share the link or your config?
    Thanks

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    I found a SPAD.neXt config (from CaptCarran) and completed it. You can look in SPAD.neXt under Online Profiles: Justflight PA28R Arrow III

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    @Cdr_Maverick I tested the profile you suggested but when it comes to turn off the panel lights it´s not working for me. Monitoring the CENTRE_LOWER_PANEL_LIGHT (LVAR) I noticed it didn't change to 10 when turning on the switch panel.
    I was able to fix it though, it is not a good code but it works :)

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    You add as many lines for LIGHT_POTENTIOMETER_INC (parameter 3) as you want to get the proper light bright in the instruments is best for you. I could no find a single command to replace such coding (unfortunately)

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    I setup the Cowl switch to turn on/off the cabin light

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    I cannot share the profile in SpadNext for it's on trial yet, I might buy a license in the near future I hope, its been very useful and gives a new whole set of options to configure the Logitech switch panel.

    Hangar 101

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    I forgot to mention it only works when TIME OF DAY is 0, 2 or 3 .. if it's 1 the panel light does not turn on.

    TIME OF DAY 1 = Daylight
    TIME OF DAY 2 = Evening
    TIME OF DAY 3 = Night
    TIME OF DAY 0 = Morning (before sunlight)

    Hangar 101

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    @anderson if you have a trial then you do not have the SPAD.neXr Beta which is necessary for the LVAR support. That might be the difference. Panel works well for me.

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    @Cdr_Maverick I’ve got a license, registered before I even used it. I don’t know how to get the Beta though. Care to share?

    I’m doing alright with it, but I am still learning. I set up a “Base” profile that works on most of the default planes, then I start a new profile using that Base, and tweaking for the plane I’m flying. I take it that is the correct way to go about it?

    Tony
    MSFS, i7-7700 Kaby Lake CPU @ 3.60Ghz 8 Cores, Liquid cooled, Gigabyte B250M-DS3H-CF M/Board, 32 GB DDR4 Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080ti 11GB GDDR5, Win10 Home, Acer Predator XB271HU.

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    @Cdr_Maverick is there a full list of all LVAR's available for the arrow?

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    @Tigerclaw if you have a licensed copy then you can select the Update Channel:

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    @anderson SPAD.neXt has debugging tools and monitors where you can also find out which variables are available. Also when adding actions you can choose:
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    @Cdr_Maverick Thank you, I will look into this later today. Much appreciated 🙂

    Tony
    MSFS, i7-7700 Kaby Lake CPU @ 3.60Ghz 8 Cores, Liquid cooled, Gigabyte B250M-DS3H-CF M/Board, 32 GB DDR4 Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080ti 11GB GDDR5, Win10 Home, Acer Predator XB271HU.

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    @Tigerclaw it took me some time to figure out the reason I could not see the LVAR in SpadNext, if you are still facing the same issue the tip below may save you sometime

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    Hangar 101

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    Kaukinen
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    I can now see those LVAR parameters in Spadnext. But are those values only "read-only"? If I try to set those parameters on switch panel with "Change Data value", value does not change. How can I set those values?

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    hangar_101
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    @Kaukinen you may change the LVARs values, below follows an example, I have the Avionics switch configure to turn on/off GPS, increase Com1 and Nav1 volume, also turn on kx175 com2 and nav2 and increase their volume as well, and do the same for the other instruments

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