Mixture lever in 114TC not working
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Like it says on the tin. The mixture lever works fine in the non turbo but not the TC. I use FSUIPC for my controls and I've tried using the BS_Mixture_1 which also doesn't work. So, Axis_Mixture_Set works for non turbo. Nothing 'Mixture' works for Turbo.
Hope that makes sense.
Otherwise love the plane.
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I'm using Axis and Ohs, not FSUIPC, but in case this helps, what I use on the turbo is BKSQ_TURBOCHARGEDMIXTURECONTROLLER with an axis minimum of 0 and maximum of 1. I found this through the Axis and Ohs "watch simulator events" function.
According to the manual, it's K:MIXTURE1_SET 0-100 or L:BKSQ_MixtureLeverPosition_1 0-1. These must not have worked for me I guess, or I wouldn't be using the one I indicated above.
There's also a section in the FAQ (from the manual) that addresses the Turbocharged mixture:
Why does the mixture behave strangely in the turbocharged
version, and I cannot bind it to hardware controls?
Microsoft Flight Simulator’s turbocharger simulation has been significantly flawed for several
generations. This aircraft has a custom turbocharger that fixes nearly all of these issues, and is
much more realistic, as a result. To make these changes, the new “Input Event” system is used
to intercept hardware and key-bindings for the mixture control axis. Please make sure that your
hardware bindings are using the Key Events, such as “K:MIXTURE1_DECR_SMALL”, or
“K:MIXTURE1_SET” to set the mixture, and NOT setting either “A:GENERAL ENG MIXTURE
LEVER POSITION:1”, or “B:FUEL_Mixture_1_Set”. Alternatively, setting
“L:BKSQ_MixtureLeverPosition_1” from 0-100 will also work to set the mixture axis. -
I was afraid of that. What is wrong with AXIS_MIXTURE_SET it moves the lever! As much as I love BS stuff (Got them all) their habit of using convoluted assignments drive me nuts. Thanks for the responses chaps. I can't be bothered tracking down those BKSQ things. I'll stick to the non-turbo.
EDIT: I didn't see the last part of RPG's post (hair trigger) I didn't think you'd have to read the manual to assign an axis. My bad.
I had to laugh when I read it. It's like something out of a nuclear facility handbook. .
Anyway, thanks again. -
I was afraid of that. What is wrong with AXIS_MIXTURE_SET it moves the lever! As much as I love BS stuff (Got them all) their habit of using convoluted assignments drive me nuts. Thanks for the responses chaps. I can't be bothered tracking down those BKSQ things. I'll stick to the non-turbo.
EDIT: I didn't see the last part of RPG's post (hair trigger) I didn't think you'd have to read the manual to assign an axis. My bad.
I had to laugh when I read it. It's like something out of a nuclear facility handbook. .
Anyway, thanks again.@Ron-Attwood I believe it is worth switching now as the 1.1 update will require the TC binding for both the naturally aspirated and TC variants to improve engine simulation. Alternatively you can bind in default msfs key-binds too without issue.
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Key binds to move a lever? If that's the case I won't bother to update. There comes a point when 'cleverness' sucks the fun out of things.
Can you hear that? It's the sound of the will to live going down the drain.
Yes, I'm a grumpy old man. -
Key binds to move a lever? If that's the case I won't bother to update. There comes a point when 'cleverness' sucks the fun out of things.
Can you hear that? It's the sound of the will to live going down the drain.
Yes, I'm a grumpy old man.@Ron-Attwood The change will allow for more realistic engine start simulation as well as a delay before the engine shuts off when moving the mixture to ICO. I highly recommend using the recommended key-binds in the manual if you insist on not using the very intuitive and working mixture axis built into MSFS2024 Control Bindings that work with all planes and save to the aircraft model you are using.
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Ron, in another thread you mentioned that your FSUIPC myevents.txt file already has a couple of Black Square mixture entries in it.
I’m working on a simple one-line fix that you should be able to paste straight into that file.
Can you copy and paste those existing Black Square mixture lines here?
I just need to see the numbers in them so I can make the new line match your setup exactly.
Just paste those lines here for now.
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It's great you're hangin' in there Sad. I'll calm down once/if this weather ever gets sensible again. I'll leave it alone for a few days and come back to it.
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Key binds to move a lever? If that's the case I won't bother to update. There comes a point when 'cleverness' sucks the fun out of things.
Can you hear that? It's the sound of the will to live going down the drain.
Yes, I'm a grumpy old man.@Ron-Attwood Perhaps some of you can give me some insight here. On every system, with every application I have tried, with every piece of hardware I have tried, the most basic native control binding for mixture has always worked. I have also tried
K:MIXTURE1_SETon every system I have had the opportunity to, and it has always worked without fail., including for condition levers. Yet, I still occasionally get complaints of these two "easy" methods not working, while the L:Var is included as backup. I know that doesn't help solve the immediate problem, but perhaps after three years, someone can help explain why this is happening? I would really appreciate any thoughts. -
@fredgarven Hi Fred. Yes I do, these are the entries in myentries.txt
// Blacksquare Duke Mixture
BS_Mixture_1#$Param 327.680 / 50 + (>L:BKSQ_MixtureLeverPosition_1)
BS_Mixture_2#$Param 327.680 / 50 + (>L:BKSQ_MixtureLeverPosition_2)
L:BKSQ_IgnitionPosition_1
L:BKSQ_IgnitionPosition_2
L:BKSQ_ConditionLever_0
Left Ignition Switch K:MAGNETO1_INCR/DECR - OR -
L:BKSQ_IgnitionPosition_1
Right Ignition Switch K:MAGNETO2_INCR/DECR - OR -
L:BKSQ_IgnitionPosition_2
Don't ask me how I got them, it was when I first got a BS something. This is getting very embarrassing. I have FSUIPC and have had it for years. All my axis, buttons and key presses are through it. When 2020 came along I was appalled at the control setup so everything went on FSUIPC.
Isaid I'd leave it alone for a while but needless to say I couldn't let it rest. Lo and behold BS_Mixture_1 suddenly worked! My head hurtsAs an experiment I'll go and try the FSUIPC settings again
I'll be back. -
Right. Both the Turbo and non Turbo work with BS_MIXTURE_1 via FSUIPC7
I'm now going to leave well alone.
I've not managed to satisfactorily get the magnetos to increase/decrease. They go from Off to Starter and from mag 3 to off. Not been able to do the old magneto test with them. Bonanza and 114
But that's for another day...
