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    JamesLaj
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    Hey All. I've recently noticed a lack of adverse yaw on the Turbine Duke in MSFS2024. When flying single engine - full thrust on good engine - I need no rudder input...the plane flys (very unexpectedly) pretty well. I'm no aerodynamics expert but that appears highly suspect. The piston Duke seems much better, requiring a healthy input of rudder when running on one engine. Anyone else notice this?

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      Hey All. I've recently noticed a lack of adverse yaw on the Turbine Duke in MSFS2024. When flying single engine - full thrust on good engine - I need no rudder input...the plane flys (very unexpectedly) pretty well. I'm no aerodynamics expert but that appears highly suspect. The piston Duke seems much better, requiring a healthy input of rudder when running on one engine. Anyone else notice this?

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      Buzz
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      @JamesLaj On a single engine, try slowing it down to red line (VMC). There should be a strong yaw moment into the dead engine. Report back.

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        I've noticed this with black square twins tbh. I imagine it's hard enough to get the flight model to feel correct with both engines running let alone with either the critical or non-critical engine failing. I do believe the vmc roll speed is modeled ok though. Best flight model around right now is from A2A, and I can vouch the single engine performance on the Aerostar is very convincing. Not to say that black square is by any means bad. In many ways black square can be much more useful as an effective sim trainer so long as you are aware of some slight limitations in how failures are modeled.

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          JamesLaj
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          I think the piston duke is pretty good...kill an engine and the ball pivots immediately toward the dead engine. Lots of yaw to trim and it flys better once the prop is feathered. The Turbine Duke however...nothing. Kill an engine and the ball stays perfectly centered...even at red line. The Msfs 2020 version was better. Something has happened to the flight model in 2024.

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            Buzz
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            What a bummer. The TDuke did perform OEI as expected in 2020, but I guess it's a bit botched in 2024. I just confirmed it. No matter what I did, I could not get the plane to yaw or roll into the inop engine. Maybe @Black-Square can throw this on his list?

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              Thanks for confirming...I was surprised to not see more comments on this.

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                Thanks for confirming...I was surprised to not see more comments on this.

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                Buzz
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                @JamesLaj It's unfortunate, most people are more concerned with textures, audio, and the rivet count. 😉

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                  What a bummer. The TDuke did perform OEI as expected in 2020, but I guess it's a bit botched in 2024. I just confirmed it. No matter what I did, I could not get the plane to yaw or roll into the inop engine. Maybe @Black-Square can throw this on his list?

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                  @Buzz There are no flight model configuration differences between MSFS 2020 and 2024, so this would be the result of another undocumented change in MSFS 2024, if so.

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                    @Buzz There are no flight model configuration differences between MSFS 2020 and 2024, so this would be the result of another undocumented change in MSFS 2024, if so.

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                    @Black-Square

                    I kind of expected that to be the case.

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