Building an integration with Black Squares Add-ons
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Hi,
I am building a deep career simulation addons and I would like to take advantages of the amazing simulations of wear and tear Black Square implements in their addons to sync with my database so that pilot so how their flight their aircraft and maintenance cost associated with that is being taken as a factor. Is there a way I can read the aircraft persistent state ?
Best regards,
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Nice try
@django1489 Nice try for what ? I just want to sync engine health or things like that so that my application can take that into account in our simulation repair logic. I don't want to steal their copyrights material or expertise. Just exposing some value i can sync with.
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@django1489 Nice try for what ? I just want to sync engine health or things like that so that my application can take that into account in our simulation repair logic. I don't want to steal their copyrights material or expertise. Just exposing some value i can sync with.
@fogboundturtle Don't mind him, he's just frustrated Nick hasn't replied to his request for modelled wear and tear on hard landings... I'm optimistic you'll get a reply if it is possible and will be helpful to you.
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Nice try
@django1489 Please understand these planes are developed by one person, and these forums are looked at by one person. Just because your post has not been replied to does not mean it was not read and has not been given thought to. Although your request may seem simple, if it is not implemented perfectly it will lead to a very unpleasant user experience.
- From what I understand, there is currently no way to accurately get information of a hard landing from the sim. Feet per minute (fpm) is not reliable due to sloping runways, a landing at Courchevel for example would require a positive 1500fpm for a normal landing (depending on aircraft speed and where you touch down on the rwy as well). G-force could theoretically be used for landing quality, but there is no easy way to connect a G-force measurement with the touching down of an aircraft, and that is assuming the data is even accurate with such a sensitive measurement. If you look at Volanta and other landing rate monitors that include G-force, the numbers simply make no sense if you actually do the math for them (which I have done because I am a huge nerd). *note with G-force you also have to consider compression of the gear suspension system along with the weight of the aircraft as well.
To put it straight, your request is not as simple as it sounds. It may be possible in the future, but with the amount of work to simply model the aircraft accurately it is clearly not on the agenda for the time being.
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Nice try
Interestingly enough, your primary concern is not even the first roadblock I considered. I think I can extract a good landing rate and other parameters with a high enough polling rate in the RPN. The main issue for me is that they would serve little purpose without being able to cause physical failures within the simulation. At least in my current paradigm, I would like 0% landing gear condition to cause some kind of failure, like hydraulic strut collapse, an uncommanding landing gear retraction, or at least a flat tire. Unfortunately, none of these are possible from within the simulation currently (as opposed to outside physics injection). That's why I haven't been so keen on those features.
That sounds like a great project! Thank you for thinking of me! I have actually spent considerable time thinking of how this might be implemented for my own purposes, but the limited persistence offered from with MSFS makes the prospect less desirable to me, since it seems like the most impressive career applications will always have to be external to the simulation, and therefore not available cross-platform. While there is currently no way to access this data directly from my aircraft, like I said, it's something I have considered, so I might have some ideas.
I would love to start by hearing what you have in mind for your project, if you're willing to share. It's the kind of thing that I would enjoy contributing to, if I had something valuable to offer. If you don't want to share publicly, you can contract me directly via Just Flight Support. If you let them know that I said to contact me, they will put us in touch. Thanks again for thinking of me and my users! I look forward to hearing more!
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Interestingly enough, your primary concern is not even the first roadblock I considered. I think I can extract a good landing rate and other parameters with a high enough polling rate in the RPN. The main issue for me is that they would serve little purpose without being able to cause physical failures within the simulation. At least in my current paradigm, I would like 0% landing gear condition to cause some kind of failure, like hydraulic strut collapse, an uncommanding landing gear retraction, or at least a flat tire. Unfortunately, none of these are possible from within the simulation currently (as opposed to outside physics injection). That's why I haven't been so keen on those features.
That sounds like a great project! Thank you for thinking of me! I have actually spent considerable time thinking of how this might be implemented for my own purposes, but the limited persistence offered from with MSFS makes the prospect less desirable to me, since it seems like the most impressive career applications will always have to be external to the simulation, and therefore not available cross-platform. While there is currently no way to access this data directly from my aircraft, like I said, it's something I have considered, so I might have some ideas.
I would love to start by hearing what you have in mind for your project, if you're willing to share. It's the kind of thing that I would enjoy contributing to, if I had something valuable to offer. If you don't want to share publicly, you can contract me directly via Just Flight Support. If you let them know that I said to contact me, they will put us in touch. Thanks again for thinking of me and my users! I look forward to hearing more!
@Black-Square Thank you for your reply. I would certainly like to keep this conversation between us and work together on a vision that will enhanced your product line and mine. There is a lot of room here to make both project even more life's like.
you can contact me with the same username @gmail.com. I do have discord if you want to have a voice chat which I often found are easier to come to an understanding.
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@Black-Square Thank you for your reply. I would certainly like to keep this conversation between us and work together on a vision that will enhanced your product line and mine. There is a lot of room here to make both project even more life's like.
you can contact me with the same username @gmail.com. I do have discord if you want to have a voice chat which I often found are easier to come to an understanding.
@fogboundturtle I'll send you a quick message right now. I apologize if I am ever slow to respond, but I read every message that comes to my inbox. I look forward to hearing more.
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@fogboundturtle Don't mind him, he's just frustrated Nick hasn't replied to his request for modelled wear and tear on hard landings... I'm optimistic you'll get a reply if it is possible and will be helpful to you.
@SadBucket i really don’t understand why people have the urge to make a fool of themselves on internet- probably because of the anonymity. Idk really. Anyways, I had to poke him to see his reaction as his initial message wasnt telling enough. There are lots of such actions on internet and few names are well known already, i dont think i should reiterate that. On the other hand, thanks for the info you provided and i see that Nick has also given an elaborate detail. So sometimes the wrong hen lays the right eggs i believe. Take good care and thanks again.
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Interestingly enough, your primary concern is not even the first roadblock I considered. I think I can extract a good landing rate and other parameters with a high enough polling rate in the RPN. The main issue for me is that they would serve little purpose without being able to cause physical failures within the simulation. At least in my current paradigm, I would like 0% landing gear condition to cause some kind of failure, like hydraulic strut collapse, an uncommanding landing gear retraction, or at least a flat tire. Unfortunately, none of these are possible from within the simulation currently (as opposed to outside physics injection). That's why I haven't been so keen on those features.
That sounds like a great project! Thank you for thinking of me! I have actually spent considerable time thinking of how this might be implemented for my own purposes, but the limited persistence offered from with MSFS makes the prospect less desirable to me, since it seems like the most impressive career applications will always have to be external to the simulation, and therefore not available cross-platform. While there is currently no way to access this data directly from my aircraft, like I said, it's something I have considered, so I might have some ideas.
I would love to start by hearing what you have in mind for your project, if you're willing to share. It's the kind of thing that I would enjoy contributing to, if I had something valuable to offer. If you don't want to share publicly, you can contract me directly via Just Flight Support. If you let them know that I said to contact me, they will put us in touch. Thanks again for thinking of me and my users! I look forward to hearing more!
@Black-Square i agree that youll need to pull out the entire root if you think of yanking the bush. And in its current state the sim wont/ cant like that. But maybe implement the gear damage to the extent of default planes? They penalise the poor landings and choice of offairport ops and thus makes the pilots involve themeselves more and thus higher inmersion. Rest of course is your call
