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Variable for the fuel selector / alternate air

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    Ron Attwood
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    You gotta laugh. I've spent loads of time experimenting with parameters 1-5. Settled on 4
    This is my 'solution'
    9=PE,3,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L,0.000000 -{Input Event}-
    10=PE,5,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R,0.000000 -{Input Event}-
    11=RE,2,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L,4.000000 -{Input Event}-
    12=RE,4,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R,4.000000 -{Input Event}-

    That gets my motors running in what feels like a realistic manner. These are on rocker switches. Top part to increse lower part to decrease. The 4s indicate hold assignment while pressed. = Starter

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      Does that actually work?

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        It does but as I said earlier, the switch goes from Off straight through to full on. Holding the button in fires the starter
        pressing the mags off part and they go straight to OFF so testing mags isn't an option (Not that I've EVER done that!

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          I need to learn more about input events clearly. I did find that magneto controller variable but the last time I tried it I think I still had some bugs.

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            @Black-Square Thoughts on why L:BKSQ_IgnitionPosition_1 isn't working properly when set to 4 or 5? I can't start the Bonanza incrementing up from 0.

            I'm not having any luck incrementing the MagnetoController, either, so I can't step through that way.

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              I haven't exactly been sure why some users have struggled with this in some of my aircraft, but I've had a very simple fix in mind for a while. You should be able to use the 5 position of this variable as intended for the start position without the spring return now. Update next week, is the plan!

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                I haven't exactly been sure why some users have struggled with this in some of my aircraft, but I've had a very simple fix in mind for a while. You should be able to use the 5 position of this variable as intended for the start position without the spring return now. Update next week, is the plan!

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                @Black-Square said in Variable for the fuel selector / alternate air:

                I haven't exactly been sure why some users have struggled with this in some of my aircraft, but I've had a very simple fix in mind for a while. You should be able to use the 5 position of this variable as intended for the start position without the spring return now. Update next week, is the plan!

                Unfortunately, setting the 5 position will move the switch into the start position, but it will not crank. I just tried it once again to confirm.

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                  @Black-Square said in Variable for the fuel selector / alternate air:

                  I haven't exactly been sure why some users have struggled with this in some of my aircraft, but I've had a very simple fix in mind for a while. You should be able to use the 5 position of this variable as intended for the start position without the spring return now. Update next week, is the plan!

                  Unfortunately, setting the 5 position will move the switch into the start position, but it will not crank. I just tried it once again to confirm.

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                  @jmarkows I know. I just fixed it 🙂

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                    Ah, I misunderstood and though going direct to 5 now would work, and the fix for going incrementally from 4 was coming next week.

                    Understood!

                    If I'm reading your code correctly, and I'm almost certainly not, I think there's a requirement to hold it in position 4 for at least half a second? I think that would be why simply going 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 5 using an individual button press isn't working. That step from 3 to 4 sometimes induces a cough from the engine, then stops.

                    Thank you kindly! Sorry for being a nuisance.

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                      Not a nuisance at all! All these suggestions make my aircraft better. I think the timing you're looking at only pertains to mouse interactions. I would just program my hardware input to increment 0 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 5, and that should work as expected.

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                        You gotta laugh. I've spent loads of time experimenting with parameters 1-5. Settled on 4
                        This is my 'solution'
                        9=PE,3,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L,0.000000 -{Input Event}-
                        10=PE,5,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R,0.000000 -{Input Event}-
                        11=RE,2,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L,4.000000 -{Input Event}-
                        12=RE,4,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R,4.000000 -{Input Event}-

                        That gets my motors running in what feels like a realistic manner. These are on rocker switches. Top part to increse lower part to decrease. The 4s indicate hold assignment while pressed. = Starter

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                        @Ron-Attwood said in Variable for the fuel selector / alternate air:

                        You gotta laugh. I've spent loads of time experimenting with parameters 1-5. Settled on 4
                        This is my 'solution'
                        9=PE,3,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L,0.000000 -{Input Event}-
                        10=PE,5,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R,0.000000 -{Input Event}-
                        11=RE,2,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L,4.000000 -{Input Event}-
                        12=RE,4,CIBKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R,4.000000 -{Input Event}-

                        That gets my motors running in what feels like a realistic manner. These are on rocker switches. Top part to increse lower part to decrease. The 4s indicate hold assignment while pressed. = Starter

                        We can do one better than this. I think I can get you to be able to cycle between the magneto settings because I can do it on my side.
                        Disclaimer: I have my FSUIPC stuff split into profiles for each aircraft I use. If you keep everything in your FSUIPC.ini file, some changes will need to be made.

                        Place this into the bottom of the same file your buttons are bound in:

                        [InputEventOffsets]
                        0=BKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_L=UB0xA000
                        1=BKSQ_MAGNETOCONTROLLER_R=UB0xA002
                        

                        Then modify your above button settings as follows:

                        9=PE,3,Cx2100A000,x00000001 	-{offset ubyte decrement, offset A000 (Decr=1, Limit=0)}-
                        10=PE,5,Cx2100A002,x00000001 	-{offset ubyte decrement, offset A002 (Decr=1, Limit=0)}-
                        11=RE,2,Cx1100A000,x00040001 	-{offset ubyte increment, offset A000 (Incr=1, Limit=4)}-
                        12=RE,4,Cx1100A002,x00040001 	-{offset ubyte increment, offset A002 (Incr=1, Limit=4)}-
                        

                        This should let you flip your rockers up and down to cycle the magnetos up and down from Off through Start (will need to be held in Start the way you are currently).

                        Let me know how it works.

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                          I'm now starting to feel very guilty. You've spent more time on this that it deserves. I also have loads of profiles for different types
                          "Place this into the bottom of the same file your buttons are bound in:"
                          I got lost at this point.
                          If, at some point, this gets fixed in an update I'll be very pleased. But at this point my head hurts.
                          Very sincerely, thanks for your efforts.
                          Perhaps at some point I looked as though I knew what I was doing. But looks can be deceiving.

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                            I'm now starting to feel very guilty. You've spent more time on this that it deserves. I also have loads of profiles for different types
                            "Place this into the bottom of the same file your buttons are bound in:"
                            I got lost at this point.
                            If, at some point, this gets fixed in an update I'll be very pleased. But at this point my head hurts.
                            Very sincerely, thanks for your efforts.
                            Perhaps at some point I looked as though I knew what I was doing. But looks can be deceiving.

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                            @Ron-Attwood said in Variable for the fuel selector / alternate air:

                            I'm now starting to feel very guilty. You've spent more time on this that it deserves.

                            Don't feel too terrible about it. As an engineer by day, I am one of those people who cannot let started problems rest until I solve them. Plus I learned a bunch along the way.

                            "Place this into the bottom of the same file your buttons are bound in:"
                            I got lost at this point.

                            Well you copied your button bindings in that earlier post from somewhere. What file did those come out of? FSUIPIC.ini, or a separate profile ini? It should go in there.

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