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    tacannav
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    The RMI Green arrow does not move, the radio I use to set frequency is the GNS530, I set it to VLOC, I would like to use the RMI for navigation using the green and yellow arrows to gain a fix and also for landing, I enter a VOR Frequency, switch to VLOC on GNS530, switch both arrows to VOR ( you can also select ADF ) and only the yellow arrow moves towards the station, the way I understand it, both needles should point to the VOR station if they are both set to VOR and the frequency entered is set to the VOR Station, I did a clean reinstall to no avail, is there something else I am not doing or is anyone else having this issue or have a solution?....actually, I have had this issue since the purchase date. Thanks

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      The yellow arrow is for your Nav1 navaid, the green one is for Nav2. In order for the green arrow to point to something, you'd need to tune your Nav2 radio to it.

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        The yellow arrow is for your Nav1 navaid, the green one is for Nav2. In order for the green arrow to point to something, you'd need to tune your Nav2 radio to it.

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        @jmarkows That's the way I understood it should work, I use the double GNS530 configuration, the two units side by side, the GNS530 does not have a nav1/nav2 selection available, so I tune in two separate frequencies and the needle does not move, I even changed the configuration switches to single unit so as to display both separate nav1/nav2 radio control units and then I tuned both radios and the needles still don't move, I usually only use VOR stations.

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          I could tell that you prefer navigating by VORs from your username! I have tremendous fun that way too, so I hope you're enjoying my aircraft.

          I just tried using both needles on the RMI in the currently public build of the Duke, and it works as expected. I assume you're certain the station in question has a VOR transmitter, and not just DME? If you continue to have trouble, please upload a video or screenshot here. I'm happy to help you figure this one out.

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            @jmarkows That's the way I understood it should work, I use the double GNS530 configuration, the two units side by side, the GNS530 does not have a nav1/nav2 selection available, so I tune in two separate frequencies and the needle does not move, I even changed the configuration switches to single unit so as to display both separate nav1/nav2 radio control units and then I tuned both radios and the needles still don't move, I usually only use VOR stations.

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            @tacannav said in Radio Magnetic Indicator green arrow not moving:

            @jmarkows That's the way I understood it should work, I use the double GNS530 configuration, the two units side by side, the GNS530 does not have a nav1/nav2 selection available, so I tune in two separate frequencies and the needle does not move, I even changed the configuration switches to single unit so as to display both separate nav1/nav2 radio control units and then I tuned both radios and the needles still don't move, I usually only use VOR stations.

            In that case I would expect one 530 to be Nav 1 and the other Nav 2, but the fact that one or both didn't work with just the plain nav radios installed is puzzling.

            I think Nick is on the right track with the next step being what, exactly, you're trying to tune with the radios.

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              @tacannav said in Radio Magnetic Indicator green arrow not moving:

              @jmarkows That's the way I understood it should work, I use the double GNS530 configuration, the two units side by side, the GNS530 does not have a nav1/nav2 selection available, so I tune in two separate frequencies and the needle does not move, I even changed the configuration switches to single unit so as to display both separate nav1/nav2 radio control units and then I tuned both radios and the needles still don't move, I usually only use VOR stations.

              In that case I would expect one 530 to be Nav 1 and the other Nav 2, but the fact that one or both didn't work with just the plain nav radios installed is puzzling.

              I think Nick is on the right track with the next step being what, exactly, you're trying to tune with the radios.

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              @jmarkows I am using the VOR from Hartsfield Airport in atlanta so I always assumed the signal was good, but that was on the ground when it wouldn't work at all, for a while there in the air I got it to working but then it appeared to stop and I was thinking this thing works when it feels like it, but I think I read in the manual that the signals are simulated to behave somewhat like the real aircraft, so maybe on the ground the aircraft was simulating a blocked signal or something behind a bldg, maybe I am used to used to simulated aircraft that don't act like real aircraft and this sim acts real, I have it working in the air to satisfaction much thanks for the help assistance.

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                I could tell that you prefer navigating by VORs from your username! I have tremendous fun that way too, so I hope you're enjoying my aircraft.

                I just tried using both needles on the RMI in the currently public build of the Duke, and it works as expected. I assume you're certain the station in question has a VOR transmitter, and not just DME? If you continue to have trouble, please upload a video or screenshot here. I'm happy to help you figure this one out.

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                @Black-Square Yes, I am enjoying the King Air overhaul, you've done well, its a great work, good realism, The VOR used is out of Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta, so I assumed the signal was good, as I mentioned to Jmarkows, it appeared to not work on the ground and in the air it seemed to work some times, I even did a clean reinstall, but as I recall in the manual that this Aircraft simulates real radio signals, so perhaps it behaves like a real radio simulating blocked signals behind bldgs, mountains...etc. maybe I am not used to flying a simulator that acts like the real plane, I am still learning it, it seems to be satisfactory for now, and yes, my username is the military Tactical Aid to Navigation system acronym, the first time I heard the acronym I liked it, so I use it.

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                  I could tell that you prefer navigating by VORs from your username! I have tremendous fun that way too, so I hope you're enjoying my aircraft.

                  I just tried using both needles on the RMI in the currently public build of the Duke, and it works as expected. I assume you're certain the station in question has a VOR transmitter, and not just DME? If you continue to have trouble, please upload a video or screenshot here. I'm happy to help you figure this one out.

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                  @Black-Square Hi, I found a video that is doing exactly the same thing I with difficulty tried to explain in my post, The guy doing this tutorial has the Black Square king Air and is trying explain a VOR to VOR Navigation tutorial, while on the ground He got no signal on the HSI and RMI, ( same thing that happened to me ) once in the air he got a signal on both HSI and RMI, but there was no numerical distance information on the HSI or DME, then he lost all his signals while airborne, he actually had to stop the video tutorial voicing his concern over not receiving a signal when he should have, saying "this is concerning," now this is a on a tutorial video, the time stamp on the video when he lost everything and stopped the video was around 32.50 on the red bar line at the bottom of the screen, if you could, could you please view that video because that was exactly what I was trying to explain, and maybe give insight on what he or we may have been doing incorrectly or something we may not be understanding about the HSI and RMI, or if all this is normal in a real plane, and if its not normal how we can get the HSI and RMI needles to respond and get a numerical distance reading on the HSI,.....also, are the red pointers implemented on the King Air overhaul? they are located on the HSI and are mentioned on page 29 in the manual saying they indicate the bearing to the nav 2 station, Should they work? I was not able to get movement from those either. Thanks

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                    Hi tacannav. I would be happy to take a look at that video as soon as you share the link. If the signal is lost completely, that's determined by the MSFS VOR simulation, and not me, but I will reserve any further thoughts until I see your video.

                    Yes, the red bearing pointer is implemented. It's always connected to NAV2, so as long as you have a valid signal from the NAV2 receiver, the pointer will be active.

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                      Hi tacannav. I would be happy to take a look at that video as soon as you share the link. If the signal is lost completely, that's determined by the MSFS VOR simulation, and not me, but I will reserve any further thoughts until I see your video.

                      Yes, the red bearing pointer is implemented. It's always connected to NAV2, so as long as you have a valid signal from the NAV2 receiver, the pointer will be active.

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                      @Black-Square Hi Dev, here is the Linkhttps://youtu.be/IoisywIxzKc?si=rvd3UFlXkpjSw_Pb
                      Sorry I forgot to include it in my reply. Bob

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                        I reconstructed the route in the video, and here is what I found:

                        1. The GLJ VOR has no DME transmitter, which is why he gets no time/distance information.

                        2. He appears to be using an outdated frequency for the VTU VOR. He's trying 108.20, but the frequency I'm seeing on the current sectionals is 116.55.

                        3. Next, he tries 115.85, but I think he meant to try 115.80, which is the Camarillo VOR, just a couple miles away.

                        If you find any other videos, or take some screenshots of your own, please feel free to share. I'm always happy to figure out whether there is a real problem, or just inconvenient circumstances.

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                          I reconstructed the route in the video, and here is what I found:

                          1. The GLJ VOR has no DME transmitter, which is why he gets no time/distance information.

                          2. He appears to be using an outdated frequency for the VTU VOR. He's trying 108.20, but the frequency I'm seeing on the current sectionals is 116.55.

                          3. Next, he tries 115.85, but I think he meant to try 115.80, which is the Camarillo VOR, just a couple miles away.

                          If you find any other videos, or take some screenshots of your own, please feel free to share. I'm always happy to figure out whether there is a real problem, or just inconvenient circumstances.

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                          @Black-Square Thanks for the assessment,....so, a VOR station with no DME transmitter, I guess that would explain no distance info, the realism of this Sim is off the chart and takes some getting used to, I'm used to flying non realistic simulator aircraft providing DME distance info at all the VOR stations, and now, I see its just not like that in the real world, actually I thought all VOR stations provided DME signals, but I am not a real pilot and just have basic understanding of VOR stations and such, and now concerning the signal issue, yes, I guess it would be helpful to enter the right frequency to get that to work, well, thanks for clearing all this up, I would have never been able to figure out what you found on my own, that's why you're the expert and put out this fantastic upgrades such as this, I always wanted a real to life simulator I could take serious and this is giving me my moneys, worth and then some. Thanks again Bob.

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                            Please don't be shy if you have any more questions! While I gather that some developers don't feel the same way, part of the enjoyment behind creating these aircraft for me is engaging with those who take them seriously and want to learn. It often turns out that I learn something too!

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