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King Air version 1.2 released!

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    DylanGump
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    Just flew with version 1.2. Much improved flight dynamics and taxiing. Works very well. The notes do say if you install the WTT for the GTN 750, you can't switch your radios. So this is not a bug. Nice going to all who worked on this.

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      Just tried my first flight with V1.2. In V1.1b, I needed a little bit of power to start taxing. Now with V1.2 as soon as I release the brakes it starts moving on its own and continues accelerating until I hit the brakes. And this is with the power levers at ground idle, the props full forward, and the condition levers at low idle. The V1.2 release notes say that "Idle thrust on the ground is more subdued." But to me it seems just the opposite. Seems like idle thrust is alot higher with V1.2.

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        Just tried my first flight with V1.2. In V1.1b, I needed a little bit of power to start taxing. Now with V1.2 as soon as I release the brakes it starts moving on its own and continues accelerating until I hit the brakes. And this is with the power levers at ground idle, the props full forward, and the condition levers at low idle. The V1.2 release notes say that "Idle thrust on the ground is more subdued." But to me it seems just the opposite. Seems like idle thrust is alot higher with V1.2.

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        JetNoise
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        @texasgary
        I don't see that behaviour in 0.1.2 nor the earlier 0.1.1b.
        Some people have it though, i assume a calibration problem ....

        Can you post a screenshot of the engine instruments section prior releasing brakes ....

        Oliver

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          @texasgary
          I don't see that behaviour in 0.1.2 nor the earlier 0.1.1b.
          Some people have it though, i assume a calibration problem ....

          Can you post a screenshot of the engine instruments section prior releasing brakes ....

          Oliver

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          TexasGary
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          Yea, when I get off work today Ill try it again and take a screenshot of the engine instruments. I noticed that some people are having this same problem with V1.2. But some aren't. Someone suggested that it may be a controller issue. FWIW I am using a Bravo Throttle Quadrant.

          Thanks.

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            Just tried my first flight with V1.2. In V1.1b, I needed a little bit of power to start taxing. Now with V1.2 as soon as I release the brakes it starts moving on its own and continues accelerating until I hit the brakes. And this is with the power levers at ground idle, the props full forward, and the condition levers at low idle. The V1.2 release notes say that "Idle thrust on the ground is more subdued." But to me it seems just the opposite. Seems like idle thrust is alot higher with V1.2.

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            YankeeTendy35
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            @texasgary I'm experiencing this as well. Felt great with 1b, now it's running away w/o any input. Low idle, ground idle on the throttles, props full forward.

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              Yea, when I get off work today Ill try it again and take a screenshot of the engine instruments. I noticed that some people are having this same problem with V1.2. But some aren't. Someone suggested that it may be a controller issue. FWIW I am using a Bravo Throttle Quadrant.

              Thanks.

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              Johan217
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              I was getting fast accelaration in v0.1.1b but not all the time. That is why I believe it might have been something with my controller - but I am NOT SURE ;) Using a MS SWFF2.

              With v0.1.2 it feels more subdued to me so far (did 3 flights). I find I do not need to add any power to get moving after releasing the parking brakes. With power at ground idle (my throttle slider at 0) speed creeps up to about 12 kts upwind, 18 kts downwind according to the GPS. Acceleration in reverse does seem quite aggressive to me - but I have zero real life experience with this and I assume my hardware isn't ideal for simulating this.

              Undercarriage lever a bit sticky was it, Sir?

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                I was getting fast accelaration in v0.1.1b but not all the time. That is why I believe it might have been something with my controller - but I am NOT SURE ;) Using a MS SWFF2.

                With v0.1.2 it feels more subdued to me so far (did 3 flights). I find I do not need to add any power to get moving after releasing the parking brakes. With power at ground idle (my throttle slider at 0) speed creeps up to about 12 kts upwind, 18 kts downwind according to the GPS. Acceleration in reverse does seem quite aggressive to me - but I have zero real life experience with this and I assume my hardware isn't ideal for simulating this.

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                OK, I got a chance to try another flight with V1.2. From a parking spot on the ramp, I followed the checklist in the manual and did a normal startup. When I was ready to taxi, here is what my engine instruments said (tried to upload a screenshot but I couldnt get it to work):

                ITT - 600 C
                Percent Torque - 2
                Prop RPM - 900
                Turbine % RPM - 62
                Fuel Flow - 140 PPH
                Oil Temp - 30 C
                Oil Press - 120 PSI

                When I released the brakes with the power levers at idle, the plane started moving slowly forward and gradually picked up speed. I braked to a full stop, and then released the brakes again. This time the plane didn't move forward at all. I advanced the power levers very slowly and it immediately started moving forward slowly. I moved the power levers back to idle and continued the taxi. The plane slowly accelerated up to about 15 knots and then seemed to maintain about 15 knots without hitting the brakes or moving the power levers.

                I wish it required a little more power to start moving forward and I wish the taxi speed would decrease if the power levers are brought back to idle. But if this is normal behavior for a King Air 350 while taxiing then I am OK with it.

                I also got a chance to take her up for some touch and goes, and to me the flight model seems much better than V1.1. I was able to slow to the flap extension speeds, then Vapp, then touch down right at Vref. Very nice work on the flight model Just Flight!! And thanks again for this great add on for MSFS!

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                  OK, I got a chance to try another flight with V1.2. From a parking spot on the ramp, I followed the checklist in the manual and did a normal startup. When I was ready to taxi, here is what my engine instruments said (tried to upload a screenshot but I couldnt get it to work):

                  ITT - 600 C
                  Percent Torque - 2
                  Prop RPM - 900
                  Turbine % RPM - 62
                  Fuel Flow - 140 PPH
                  Oil Temp - 30 C
                  Oil Press - 120 PSI

                  When I released the brakes with the power levers at idle, the plane started moving slowly forward and gradually picked up speed. I braked to a full stop, and then released the brakes again. This time the plane didn't move forward at all. I advanced the power levers very slowly and it immediately started moving forward slowly. I moved the power levers back to idle and continued the taxi. The plane slowly accelerated up to about 15 knots and then seemed to maintain about 15 knots without hitting the brakes or moving the power levers.

                  I wish it required a little more power to start moving forward and I wish the taxi speed would decrease if the power levers are brought back to idle. But if this is normal behavior for a King Air 350 while taxiing then I am OK with it.

                  I also got a chance to take her up for some touch and goes, and to me the flight model seems much better than V1.1. I was able to slow to the flap extension speeds, then Vapp, then touch down right at Vref. Very nice work on the flight model Just Flight!! And thanks again for this great add on for MSFS!

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                  YankeeTendy35
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                  @texasgary Excellent writeup. This is what I've experienced as well.

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                    Andydigital
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                    Yes that is pretty normal, also a lighter payload will start moving easier than a heavy one. You may have been on a slope etc, this all will effect how easily the aircraft starts to move.

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                      OK, I got a chance to try another flight with V1.2. From a parking spot on the ramp, I followed the checklist in the manual and did a normal startup. When I was ready to taxi, here is what my engine instruments said (tried to upload a screenshot but I couldnt get it to work):

                      ITT - 600 C
                      Percent Torque - 2
                      Prop RPM - 900
                      Turbine % RPM - 62
                      Fuel Flow - 140 PPH
                      Oil Temp - 30 C
                      Oil Press - 120 PSI

                      When I released the brakes with the power levers at idle, the plane started moving slowly forward and gradually picked up speed. I braked to a full stop, and then released the brakes again. This time the plane didn't move forward at all. I advanced the power levers very slowly and it immediately started moving forward slowly. I moved the power levers back to idle and continued the taxi. The plane slowly accelerated up to about 15 knots and then seemed to maintain about 15 knots without hitting the brakes or moving the power levers.

                      I wish it required a little more power to start moving forward and I wish the taxi speed would decrease if the power levers are brought back to idle. But if this is normal behavior for a King Air 350 while taxiing then I am OK with it.

                      I also got a chance to take her up for some touch and goes, and to me the flight model seems much better than V1.1. I was able to slow to the flap extension speeds, then Vapp, then touch down right at Vref. Very nice work on the flight model Just Flight!! And thanks again for this great add on for MSFS!

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                      @texasgary Thanks. All the praise for this one with our external developer Black Square. I believe another update might be here in a day or two, maybe some of the issues you point out will be part of that update.

                      Thanks for the kind words.

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