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Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV
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    Ricardo Teixeira
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    Hello, there must be a way to set a default value for a given condition; however I don't know how to do this for a specific model in msfs2020. My procedure is already in the airplane environment, during the startup checklists. I have a rotary tweak on my x56 that I've set to be the plane's trim control; just make sure it is in position "0 degrees", and the model will automatically be.

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    Stona
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    @ricardo-teixeira
    That method works because x52 rotary dial is effectively an axis so the game reads the exact position

    If you use buttons to adjust the trim the button just moves the trim from the relative starting position so in my case it's -4.6 for some reason

    The only way to tell what the trim is set up is by looking at the number on label of the planes trim wheel as I adjust it.....and I hate having these labels pop up when mousing over the controls but it's the only way to tell what my trim is set at :(

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    RetiredMan93231
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    @stona In the real world aircraft the trim gauge "takeoff" mark is the only way to see the trim setting, which should always be part of your takeoff checklist... and the preflight visual inspection of the trim tab position. The "correct" trim setting will always be approximate, and will depend on your aircraft loading. Many real world pilots count the number of rotations on the trim wheel to set the correct takeoff trim. So, you can do the same by counting number of clicks of the mouse wheel or trim button, and by looking at the position of the trim indicator mark relative to the takeoff mark. The primary goal is to accurately simulate piloting the real world aircraft, so there are no numbers on the trim gauge.

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    Stona
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    @retiredman93231 said in Piper Arrow IV uncontrolled:

    trim indicator mark relative to the takeoff mark

    Thanks for your help mate
    Is there a trim indicator on the Arrow?
    I can't see it!

    I do see one in the C208

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    RetiredMan93231
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    @stona The trim indicator is to the left of the trim wheel, between the seats... Unfortunately, it's not visible without moving your view sideways (use the keyboard arrow keys).

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    Stona
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    @retiredman93231
    Thanks mate; never thought of move too the left LOL

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    Biokerozen
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    Hello, I also noticed that PA28 Arrow IV is uncontrollable during take off and landing steps. It slides from left to right and vice versa, it seems the plane loses grip on the ground. I have no AP activated. It seems to happened since last updates (Behaviour was correct on firsts versions).

    The uncontrolled behaviour can be seen in this video : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1151425503?filter=archives&sort=time

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    RetiredMan93231
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    @biokerozen See this thread for a recommended mod that will fix this issue on all of the JF PA28's... https://community.justflight.com/topic/2676/take-off-roll-issue/9

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    Biokerozen
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    @retiredman93231 Oh man... you saved my life (and my plane too) ! Thanks a lot for this fix... It works like a charm !
    Hope JF will do some corrections in a coming update.

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    Biokerozen
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    Ok I have to moderate my enthousiasm...
    This fix is better than nothing but I still belive there is something wrong with the Arrow IV.
    I made some test and it appears that when flaps are set (not 0°), the nose plane goes constantly from rigth to left and vice versa... I have tested with no wind at all and the plane is uncontrollable. I've done the same fligth (same airport and weather parameters) with the DR400 and plane is stable :/
    In the first versions of Arrow IV this strange behavior was not here.... something is definitelly wrong with the actual version.... really need a fix.

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