Piper Arrow IV uncontrolled
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Hi, has anyone around here noticed any navigation issues on the PA28R Turbo Arrow IV? I have the 3 models and only this one (IV) is uncontrollable during takeoffs; I noticed that the ailerons look like I'm ordering a turn, even with my X56 yoke at rest. I've already recentralized my yoke (X56) and nothing changes; and this is the only Piper that exhibits this behavior. Any hints that might be causing it? My INTEL core I7 system, 101700K; 32 Gb RAM, 2 T HD, RTX3060 8G processing MSFS2020, updt 6, rkls 1.19.8.0.
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Hi, has anyone around here noticed any navigation issues on the PA28R Turbo Arrow IV? I have the 3 models and only this one (IV) is uncontrollable during takeoffs; I noticed that the ailerons look like I'm ordering a turn, even with my X56 yoke at rest. I've already recentralized my yoke (X56) and nothing changes; and this is the only Piper that exhibits this behavior. Any hints that might be causing it? My INTEL core I7 system, 101700K; 32 Gb RAM, 2 T HD, RTX3060 8G processing MSFS2020, updt 6, rkls 1.19.8.0.
@ricardo-teixeira Looks like autopilot is on. Make sure the switch is off. If it is already off, try turning it on and back off again
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@ricardo-teixeira Looks like autopilot is on. Make sure the switch is off. If it is already off, try turning it on and back off again
@vcapra1 Oh, thank you, the Auto Pilot was ON! It was my mistake!
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@vcapra1 Oh, thank you, the Auto Pilot was ON! It was my mistake!
One thing I've noticed is that for some reason when first entering a flight (doing a cold start) the pitch is always trim down to -4.6
I have to always rememebr to adjust the trim to 0 before taxing as it makes the plane uncontrolable during take off
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One thing I've noticed is that for some reason when first entering a flight (doing a cold start) the pitch is always trim down to -4.6
I have to always rememebr to adjust the trim to 0 before taxing as it makes the plane uncontrolable during take off
@stona Hy, thanks! I've never notice this, adjust trim is one of my normal procedure before start taxi. Maybe by this reason I've never notice this fact before. Thanks
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@stona Hy, thanks! I've never notice this, adjust trim is one of my normal procedure before start taxi. Maybe by this reason I've never notice this fact before. Thanks
@ricardo-teixeira
Is there a way to tell what the pitch is set at without having the ingame labels on?
I wish we could assign a button to reset the pitch to 0I wonder why this is not an option in the game :thinking_face:
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@ricardo-teixeira
Is there a way to tell what the pitch is set at without having the ingame labels on?
I wish we could assign a button to reset the pitch to 0I wonder why this is not an option in the game :thinking_face:
Hello, there must be a way to set a default value for a given condition; however I don't know how to do this for a specific model in msfs2020. My procedure is already in the airplane environment, during the startup checklists. I have a rotary tweak on my x56 that I've set to be the plane's trim control; just make sure it is in position "0 degrees", and the model will automatically be.
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Hello, there must be a way to set a default value for a given condition; however I don't know how to do this for a specific model in msfs2020. My procedure is already in the airplane environment, during the startup checklists. I have a rotary tweak on my x56 that I've set to be the plane's trim control; just make sure it is in position "0 degrees", and the model will automatically be.
@ricardo-teixeira
That method works because x52 rotary dial is effectively an axis so the game reads the exact positionIf you use buttons to adjust the trim the button just moves the trim from the relative starting position so in my case it's -4.6 for some reason
The only way to tell what the trim is set up is by looking at the number on label of the planes trim wheel as I adjust it.....and I hate having these labels pop up when mousing over the controls but it's the only way to tell what my trim is set at :(
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@ricardo-teixeira
That method works because x52 rotary dial is effectively an axis so the game reads the exact positionIf you use buttons to adjust the trim the button just moves the trim from the relative starting position so in my case it's -4.6 for some reason
The only way to tell what the trim is set up is by looking at the number on label of the planes trim wheel as I adjust it.....and I hate having these labels pop up when mousing over the controls but it's the only way to tell what my trim is set at :(
@stona In the real world aircraft the trim gauge "takeoff" mark is the only way to see the trim setting, which should always be part of your takeoff checklist... and the preflight visual inspection of the trim tab position. The "correct" trim setting will always be approximate, and will depend on your aircraft loading. Many real world pilots count the number of rotations on the trim wheel to set the correct takeoff trim. So, you can do the same by counting number of clicks of the mouse wheel or trim button, and by looking at the position of the trim indicator mark relative to the takeoff mark. The primary goal is to accurately simulate piloting the real world aircraft, so there are no numbers on the trim gauge.
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@stona In the real world aircraft the trim gauge "takeoff" mark is the only way to see the trim setting, which should always be part of your takeoff checklist... and the preflight visual inspection of the trim tab position. The "correct" trim setting will always be approximate, and will depend on your aircraft loading. Many real world pilots count the number of rotations on the trim wheel to set the correct takeoff trim. So, you can do the same by counting number of clicks of the mouse wheel or trim button, and by looking at the position of the trim indicator mark relative to the takeoff mark. The primary goal is to accurately simulate piloting the real world aircraft, so there are no numbers on the trim gauge.
@retiredman93231 said in Piper Arrow IV uncontrolled:
trim indicator mark relative to the takeoff mark
Thanks for your help mate
Is there a trim indicator on the Arrow?
I can't see it!I do see one in the C208
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@retiredman93231 said in Piper Arrow IV uncontrolled:
trim indicator mark relative to the takeoff mark
Thanks for your help mate
Is there a trim indicator on the Arrow?
I can't see it!I do see one in the C208
@stona The trim indicator is to the left of the trim wheel, between the seats... Unfortunately, it's not visible without moving your view sideways (use the keyboard arrow keys).
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@stona The trim indicator is to the left of the trim wheel, between the seats... Unfortunately, it's not visible without moving your view sideways (use the keyboard arrow keys).
@retiredman93231
Thanks mate; never thought of move too the left LOL -
Hello, I also noticed that PA28 Arrow IV is uncontrollable during take off and landing steps. It slides from left to right and vice versa, it seems the plane loses grip on the ground. I have no AP activated. It seems to happened since last updates (Behaviour was correct on firsts versions).
The uncontrolled behaviour can be seen in this video : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1151425503?filter=archives&sort=time
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Hello, I also noticed that PA28 Arrow IV is uncontrollable during take off and landing steps. It slides from left to right and vice versa, it seems the plane loses grip on the ground. I have no AP activated. It seems to happened since last updates (Behaviour was correct on firsts versions).
The uncontrolled behaviour can be seen in this video : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1151425503?filter=archives&sort=time
@biokerozen See this thread for a recommended mod that will fix this issue on all of the JF PA28's... https://community.justflight.com/topic/2676/take-off-roll-issue/9
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@biokerozen See this thread for a recommended mod that will fix this issue on all of the JF PA28's... https://community.justflight.com/topic/2676/take-off-roll-issue/9
@retiredman93231 Oh man... you saved my life (and my plane too) ! Thanks a lot for this fix... It works like a charm !
Hope JF will do some corrections in a coming update. -
@retiredman93231 Oh man... you saved my life (and my plane too) ! Thanks a lot for this fix... It works like a charm !
Hope JF will do some corrections in a coming update.Ok I have to moderate my enthousiasm...
This fix is better than nothing but I still belive there is something wrong with the Arrow IV.
I made some test and it appears that when flaps are set (not 0°), the nose plane goes constantly from rigth to left and vice versa... I have tested with no wind at all and the plane is uncontrollable. I've done the same fligth (same airport and weather parameters) with the DR400 and plane is stable :/
In the first versions of Arrow IV this strange behavior was not here.... something is definitelly wrong with the actual version.... really need a fix.
