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Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5

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  • M Moridin

    Custom cameras started working. No idea why.

    I’m getting a lot of banking to the left when flying. Irrespective of current winds.

    When taking off, the Arrow sharply veers to the left close to Vr. Barely controllable.

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    corvus5624
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    @Moridin said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

    I’m getting a lot of banking to the left when flying. Irrespective of current winds.

    Could be due to the missing co-pilot?

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    • corvus5624C corvus5624

      @Moridin said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

      I’m getting a lot of banking to the left when flying. Irrespective of current winds.

      Could be due to the missing co-pilot?

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      Moridin
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      @corvus5624 I am flying solo. Hmm. Didn’t notice it this bad before. Much more delicate. Possible though if something was tweaked. Will test.

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        #10

        It would be good to maintain a list. I only made a simple VFR flight and had not used most of the nav equipments, but already have a list:

        • Parking brake TOGGLE assignment turns brake ON instead of toggling (reported by others as well)
        • Side window can't be opened
        • GPS is stuck in COM SETUP mode, I can't select any other modes
        • GPS VOL Push ID button is spinning, but can be stopped
        • Battery refill is not reffilling to full. If battery is drained, one should start the aircraft with "Ready For Takeff" mode, wait until the battery is recharged and then save the state
        • I have feelings that State Saving functionality is also compromized. Possibly fuel is not saved correctly or the values are reset by some known FS bugs around fuel quantity initialization
        • Someone wrote that the HDG BUG change button lost the acceleration functionality. I can't confirm as I don't remember how it worked before.

        I haven't flown the Arrow for some weeks, so I am not sure, but it seems the engine start procedure had slightly changed. Now I have to add a minimum power (throttle) when starting, otherwise the process halts. After starting I might set throttle to idle. This might be realistic (priming) and might have come with one of the Arrow updates.

        UPDATE: The two GPS issues are related not to the default GPS but to the PMS-50 GNS mod. The default version works fine. The most up-to-date PMS-50 GNS is also working fine. So these are no issues.

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          OwlInFlight
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          GPS AP wasn't working. Heading hold worked fine, but GPS does not.

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            Gps does work, but you first have to press the heading button and then the nav switch. Sometimes need to do this a few times

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              Martyn
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              @ghrasko said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

              GPS is stuck in COM SETUP mode, I can't select any other modes
              GPS VOL Push ID button is spinning, but can be stopped

              Are these issues occurring with the default or PMS-50 GNS? If it's the latter, have you installed the latest version of the GNS?

              Martyn - Development Manager

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              • MartynM Martyn

                @ghrasko said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

                GPS is stuck in COM SETUP mode, I can't select any other modes
                GPS VOL Push ID button is spinning, but can be stopped

                Are these issues occurring with the default or PMS-50 GNS? If it's the latter, have you installed the latest version of the GNS?

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                @Martyn said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

                @ghrasko said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

                GPS is stuck in COM SETUP mode, I can't select any other modes
                GPS VOL Push ID button is spinning, but can be stopped

                Are these issues occurring with the default or PMS-50 GNS? If it's the latter, have you installed the latest version of the GNS?

                Dear Martyn, please can you let us know if there will be an updated version of the Arrows being made available to resolve the issues brought on by SU5? For example very difficult to activate Nav mode, and the heater cannot be turned on. Thanks.

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                • MartynM Martyn

                  @ghrasko said in Turbo Arrows not working correctly after sim update 5:

                  GPS is stuck in COM SETUP mode, I can't select any other modes
                  GPS VOL Push ID button is spinning, but can be stopped

                  Are these issues occurring with the default or PMS-50 GNS? If it's the latter, have you installed the latest version of the GNS?

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                  ghrasko
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                  @Martyn, it was PMS-50 GNS. I removed it and the default GPS is working fine. I updated my list above to reflect this. Thanks.

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                  • ghraskoG ghrasko

                    @Martyn, it was PMS-50 GNS. I removed it and the default GPS is working fine. I updated my list above to reflect this. Thanks.

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                    Martyn
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                    @ghrasko

                    Great, thanks.

                    I'm using the latest PMS-50 GNS and it seems to work fine.

                    Martyn - Development Manager

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                    • MartynM Martyn

                      @ghrasko

                      Great, thanks.

                      I'm using the latest PMS-50 GNS and it seems to work fine.

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                      @Martyn, yes, I updated it to the latest version and that also works fine. I deleted these points from my above list.

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                        hey...
                        some issues i run into after a short break with the sim...

                        • autopilot gets crazy when engaging
                          when pressing the HDG button (hdg is sync with the runway)
                          the yoke turns immediately to the left
                          same with NAV it turns slowly to the right

                        • have no magenta line in the Garmin` s when loading a plan
                          instead i have weird waypoint names that actually not in my flight plan
                          (i have to say , i use the pms50 GNS 530 mod)

                        minor isssues

                        • interior co pilot model is gone

                        • oxygen toggle is gone ( i think it was the "dump air" event in the sim)

                        very disapointed with the last su5 (not your fault .. i know)

                        thanks in advance

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                        • StefanS Stefan

                          hey...
                          some issues i run into after a short break with the sim...

                          • autopilot gets crazy when engaging
                            when pressing the HDG button (hdg is sync with the runway)
                            the yoke turns immediately to the left
                            same with NAV it turns slowly to the right

                          • have no magenta line in the Garmin` s when loading a plan
                            instead i have weird waypoint names that actually not in my flight plan
                            (i have to say , i use the pms50 GNS 530 mod)

                          minor isssues

                          • interior co pilot model is gone

                          • oxygen toggle is gone ( i think it was the "dump air" event in the sim)

                          very disapointed with the last su5 (not your fault .. i know)

                          thanks in advance

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                          @stefan Just checking, you have updated since we released our update last week/

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                            @stefan Just checking, you have updated since we released our update last week/

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                            @voice-of-reason I have the latest version of the Turbo arrows installed. I went through programs and features to completely remove the last versions I had installed, then ran the new versions installer. The plane works well now, however, when flying on VATSIM, I noticed COMM1 and 2 and the transponder will change to a random set of numbers when airborn. On the ground they seem to stay as you set them. Once I takeoff, they all just change, making flying on VATSIM impossible. Tried with the GNS mod and without it. Same result both times.

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                              @stefan Just checking, you have updated since we released our update last week/

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                              @voice-of-reason

                              yes i have 0.4.0 in my comunity folder (also the newest pms50 mod)

                              i removed the old version from the com folder and reinstalled it via the new 0.4.0 .exe installer

                              should i try to remove it completely from my system and install again ?

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                              • StefanS Stefan

                                @voice-of-reason

                                yes i have 0.4.0 in my comunity folder (also the newest pms50 mod)

                                i removed the old version from the com folder and reinstalled it via the new 0.4.0 .exe installer

                                should i try to remove it completely from my system and install again ?

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                                @stefan Yes, give it a go. If your problems persist please raise a ticket with our support team.

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                                  @stefan Yes, give it a go. If your problems persist please raise a ticket with our support team.

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                                  @voice-of-reason
                                  unfortunately no success... i opened a ticket ...thanks so far

                                  btw...

                                  would it be possible to add a small indication to the EFB when the ALT hold mode is active ?
                                  i disabled the ugly looking cockpit tooltips in the sim ... but now its hard to check the state

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                                  • T Tailspin88

                                    @voice-of-reason I have the latest version of the Turbo arrows installed. I went through programs and features to completely remove the last versions I had installed, then ran the new versions installer. The plane works well now, however, when flying on VATSIM, I noticed COMM1 and 2 and the transponder will change to a random set of numbers when airborn. On the ground they seem to stay as you set them. Once I takeoff, they all just change, making flying on VATSIM impossible. Tried with the GNS mod and without it. Same result both times.

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                                    Tailspin88
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                                    @tailspin88 This actually seems to be a bug in the sim, not specific to the Arrows. I tested with the default C208 and it does the same thing with the radios not staying as you set them.

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                                      dadgametime
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                                      My Turbo III is now missing. No idea why. Arrow III and Turbo IV and Warrior II are all there, but the Turbo III is gone. Ugh. When I check the directories, the files are there.

                                      Brian
                                      https://www.flyaka.com
                                      Alaska Adventures

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                                      • dadgametimeD dadgametime

                                        My Turbo III is now missing. No idea why. Arrow III and Turbo IV and Warrior II are all there, but the Turbo III is gone. Ugh. When I check the directories, the files are there.

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                                        I found it today. For some reason it shows up in the aircraft list as UI_Aircraft.... something something. It's there, but it has a bad manifest

                                        Brian
                                        https://www.flyaka.com
                                        Alaska Adventures

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                                        • T Tailspin88

                                          @tailspin88 This actually seems to be a bug in the sim, not specific to the Arrows. I tested with the default C208 and it does the same thing with the radios not staying as you set them.

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                                          dadgametime
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                                          @tailspin88 This isn't a problem in the sim. I've helped a few people fix this. When SU5 was released, it created a LOT of changes in your settings to take advantage of the new options available. The problem is that you have the AI set up to control your radios but you didn't know it. Go into your options and turn off the AI radio control

                                          Brian
                                          https://www.flyaka.com
                                          Alaska Adventures

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