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Piper Turbo Arrow III - Needs a lot of Trim to Hold Descent on Approach?

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    petenoak
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    Am I doing something wrong?
    Maybe I could alter my yoke's settings but compared to other aircraft I've flown in FS2020/24 it seems to me that this Piper Turbo Arrow III might be a bit lacking in 'lift'.

    Starting at sea level, aircraft weight ~2700 lbs., to lift off the runway at 60-70kts, with flaps 25deg, I use Trim+1 or +2 and STILL have to pull a fair amount on the yoke.

    Well, that's not a big deal, but I have a devil of a time on Approach. With flaps at 25deg, and then 40deg, I need a LOT of uptrim to hold the plane on descent to the runway. I use a setting of Trim=+10.

    That is a very different number from other aircraft. Am I missing something?

    What have others experienced?

    BTW, I can't edit the aircraft.cfg (does that still exist?), I'm on the Xbox platform.

    pete G in San Leandro, CA

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      Delta558
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      I've just taken the Turbo III for a spin at max weight, I wouldn't know what your 'Trim+1' refers to as I use the trim gauge in the VC (between the seats). ALL the PA28s have a slight nose-up neutral point, the gauge reflects that. The trim needs to be in the white band for take-off. The image below shows where I had the trim for a nearly max weight landing with CG at 19%MAC - you can see it's only just aft of the white line and there's still a large range of trim available:
      Trim gauge.JPG

      Just Flight FDE developer

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        GunStrauss
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        My experience is that the current flight dynamics feels a bit weird — the aircraft seems unusually heavy compared to the default 2024 Cessna. It needs a lot of input during takeoff and landing, even with neutral trim, just to keep it from plummeting into the ground. Are you sure there are no issues here?

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          The Turbo Arrow is known to be "nose heavy" due to the weight of the turbocharger and heavier front gear.

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