Crosswind-problem
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Hello,
i'm having trouble (starting at about 10knots at a 90 degree crosswind) keeping the aircraft stable on the centerline during takeoff and landing.
Also on the approach, the plane feels like a small piston-engine airplane blown away from the crosswind.
Are any improvements planned by Just Flight in the near future?
There's a similar older forum post that hasn't been responded to yet...Greetings, Volker.
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There will be some flight model improvements brought across from our RJ Professional in the next 146 Professional update, but we are already very happy with the flight model in general.
It is worth considering that the 146 is a very different configuration compared to more conventional airliners, with a large T-Tail and relatively low gross weights so it is expected for it to be more susceptible to windy conditions.
There are a few settings that can be changed in the simulator to suit your personal preferences:
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In the 146 EFB > Aircraft > Configuration Menu, the RUDDER STEERING AXIS option can be used to separate the nose wheel steering axis from the rudder axis. This option is enabled by default which allows for greater compatibility with most user's external hardware setups by allowing the nose wheel steering to be controlled using the rudder axis control assignments within the simulator (this is also how most other aircraft are set up in the simulator). However, isn't particularly accurate to the real aircraft which has separate nose wheel steering and rudder controls. Disabling this option will allow you to control the nose wheel steering and rudder independently via separate controls, and will have side effect of reducing the sensitivity of rudder during the takeoff/landing roll.
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In MSFS Options > Assistance Options > Piloting, the Turbulence setting can be adjusted to suit your personal preferences. Based on feedback from pilots on our testing team, the default "Realistic" option typically provides overly aggressive turbulence effects, so we would recommend using "Low" or "Medium" for a more realistic experience.
Hope that helps.
Mark - Just Flight
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Hello Mark,
first of all, I'd like to thank you for your very quick response ! :)
Of course, the large T-tail and the relatively low gross weights are factors to consider. However, the manual states that takeoff is permitted up to a maximum of 30 knots of crosswind. In the simulator, however, i'm unable to keep the aircraft on the centerline in this crosswind... with or without the "RUDDER STEERING AXIS" enabled. Normally i have the axes separated.
Perhaps i'm doing something wrong. If you manage the takeoff and landing at the maximum permitted crosswinds, i'd like to know your settings ;)
My assistance options are all set to "realistic." I'd like to try a takeoff/landing with "medium" options. Perhaps that's an acceptable solution to that problem...And of course, waiting for the next update... ;)
Thanks again!
Best regards, Volker.
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Try using a touch of into wind aileron, but not too much as the roll spoiler will lift on the same wing.
On the aircraft we would use nose wheel steering and in the early stages full aileron into wind. As speed increased the rudder would be fed in as speed increased and it replaced the use of nose wheel steering to keep straight, the aileron input also reduced as speed increased to just enough to keep the aircraft straight and wings level.
The take-off. crosswind limit for the 146-100 is 33 kts,-200 is 30 kts and the -300 is 35 kts.
The aircraft was subject to limitations on the setting of take-off power when the wind speed was greater than 25 kts and more than 55*off the r/w heading… but I suspect you won’t want to know that?
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Hello Paul,
thanks for all the tips. I'm generally interested in anything that helps me or broadens my horizons ;)
I'll give it a try soon. The tip about the spoilers is really helpful - I would have thought there were sensors that tell the aircraft that it's on the ground, and then the spoilers don't extend during takeoff... -
Hi Volker,
The left/right ROLL SPOILERS operate in together with its associated aileron when it’s raised. eg left aileron (up) input of column will raise the left aileron, and passing 5* of column rotation will start to raise the left roll spoiler. The roll spoiler will be fully up with about 50% of available rotation of the column. The right aileron/roll spoiler reacts in the same way when rotating the column in the other direction. You can watch roll spoiler movement on either of the two ‘roll spoiler’ gauges on the instrument panel - just to the right of the flap gauge.
The LIFT SPOILERS operate in association with the airbrake lever when it is pulled through the ‘bulk’ at the fully airbrake open position. Lift spoilers are only ever used on the ground, NEVER in the air on the 146/RJ. Roll spoilers/lift spoilers are quite separate control surfaces. The roll spoilers require the YELLOW hydraulic system to be operating for them to work.
