Black Square Updates for MSFS2024
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Read all the posts above. Informative, but my ultimate question: When will native Bonanza, Baron, Caravan, King Air and TBM be coming to MSFS2024?
I uninstalled MSFS2020 and later, when I tried to put it back, it installed OK but would not run. So, the helpful hints mentioned above won't help me.
Hopefully, they may be coming soon. Really miss them. I tried flying the Asobo Caravan today and it was a train wreck.@topcat1952 I think this has been posted elsewhere in this thread, but you can read about my MSFS 2024 plans primarily in this article, here. Make sure to check out the comparison links at the bottom of the page to see all that I've added for these new releases.
Since core changes were made to the way that aircraft are "assembled" in MSFS 2024, it was not possible to bring the Steam Gauge Overhaul fleet over to 2024. Personally, I see this as quite a positive, because it has allowed me to create standalone versions of my older aircraft with all my latest features for MSFS 2024. I hope you're looking forward to these, and I am happy to answer any questions. There was a surprising amount of interest at Flight Sim Expo this year, especially for the Caravan!
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Thanks for all the hard work and amazing aircrafts. I just recently purchased the Turbine Duke, my first Black Square product, and it is absolutely perfect. Looking forward for full 2024 compatibility for this aircraft, and am very eager to learn of new updates & potentials timelines for that and your other aircrafts. Keep it up!
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I own all your aircraft apart from the Caravan, any new releases and especially Professional versions of existing ones will be an instant buy from me, they are superb.
I hope Boris gets to do the sounds for everything in your fleet and that the Velocity XL gets included too.
You mentioned about people still using 2020, I'm one of them and the reason is because I found it usually takes a year or so for Asobo to stabilise the platform and for the aircraft I want to get ported. So it really is a matter of when, not if.
Thanks Nick for all your amazing work.
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hi guys, just updated dukes. 16 09 2025. i take pisduke, no grand. only way to start engines it's exactly after pump, 30c oat. is that so fast vaporize in model? it's su3 2024. had never problems to start engines all time very fast ignition. today. as usual give some oil to both pump them at full throttle and mixture. i even thought i will some flood them, but no, they just won't start if not pump exactly with starter or may be immediately after pump. in cabin show 45c must be you add sun factor. may be engines so hot too:)
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hi guys, just updated dukes. 16 09 2025. i take pisduke, no grand. only way to start engines it's exactly after pump, 30c oat. is that so fast vaporize in model? it's su3 2024. had never problems to start engines all time very fast ignition. today. as usual give some oil to both pump them at full throttle and mixture. i even thought i will some flood them, but no, they just won't start if not pump exactly with starter or may be immediately after pump. in cabin show 45c must be you add sun factor. may be engines so hot too:)
can you check that?@einherz If this was shortly after shutting down, particularly in such hot conditions, the fuel system will be vapor locked and you need to run the pumps for awhile, up to like 20-30 seconds, with the throttles and mixtures fully closed to clear the vapor and cool down the lines so it doesn't just immediately vaporize again.
Not positive but I suppose in very hot conditions this could happen immediately(?), but not at 30c, that's hot but hardly extreme.
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I mean yeah, 45c cabin temp is very, very hot but the engines aren't inside of a greenhouse like the cabin and 30c OAT shouldn't be problematic for starting cold("cold" relatively speaking as in at ambient temp even if that's say 35 or 40c under the cowling, the engine isn't hot relative to while running or recently after shutdown, I mean 300-400 degrees is normal operating temp for the engine)
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@einherz If this was shortly after shutting down, particularly in such hot conditions, the fuel system will be vapor locked and you need to run the pumps for awhile, up to like 20-30 seconds, with the throttles and mixtures fully closed to clear the vapor and cool down the lines so it doesn't just immediately vaporize again.
Not positive but I suppose in very hot conditions this could happen immediately(?), but not at 30c, that's hot but hardly extreme.
@jaczxsdfsmits thank you. yes, oat 30, but in cabin very fast 45, i am only 120 lbs pilot without passengers:) may be somehow the sun heat the engines too. anyways, it's starting, algorithm has founded, so i'm good:) but i will try your method for hot weather too.
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@jaczxsdfsmits thank you. yes, oat 30, but in cabin very fast 45, i am only 120 lbs pilot without passengers:) may be somehow the sun heat the engines too. anyways, it's starting, algorithm has founded, so i'm good:) but i will try your method for hot weather too.
@einherz just a quick note since I couldn’t gather the exact scenario from your posts, but the 10-20 second run of the fuel pumps is only for a vapor locked engine (if you were just flying and then shut it down, and try restarting the engine in 10-15 minutes). If you just loaded in on the ground you won’t need to follow that procedure. You’ll want to follow the engine start checklist (cold). It involves running the pre oiler and doing a 5-7 second run of the fuel pump with full mixture and throttle to prime the engine. The trick is to make sure you return the throttle to idle and then open it a small amount. You may need to play with the throttle a little to find what works, but 30c ambient on a cold engine (not previously run) definitely shouldn’t require the hot/vapor locked engine start procedure.
