2024 - First flight, VR, minor issues noted.
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Thanks for this quick update to make it 2024 compatible, it’s one of the planes that kept me in 2020. Despite 2024’s obvious flaws.
I just had a more or less successful and real enjoyable flight in VR.
However there were a few minor issues I noticed, mostly small things. Only real impactful one, for my use, was the issue with the Bravo AP controls not working with the plane for some reason.
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I have a Bravo Throttle Quadrant. With the autopilot, I can’t adjust the altitude, IAS, VS, HDG, etc using the the increase/decrease knob, I'm not sure one way or another if the mode selector knob is being detected correctly either. The various buttons and knobs have the default bindings that are correctly configured (just as in 2020) and work currently in other 2024 aircraft.
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The Engine Start switch is a challenge to press (at least in VR). Pressing it always seems to want to put it in MOTOR instead of START. For now I can sort jam it enough times to get it to work.
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Yoke Checklist click point in VR is not working, I can only remove it in 2d.
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APU Start/Stop is stuck in START. I cannot change it to Stop. This might be visual only because even with it set to START at cold and dark, I need to press it again to initiate the start. And I can click stop to stop it, even though it remains visually on start.This might have been a button binding issue. -
Tool Tip popups appear far away from the buttons themselves, at least in VR.
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Engine 1 Fuel Off is a bit hard to get triggered with the Bravo Throttle Quadrant. Trying to go from 0% throttle to fuel off only work like 50% of time. I’m usually more successful if I go from a higher throttle level like 40% and immediately to fuel off, then it goes. But if I try from like 0-5% throttle to fuel off, it doesn’t always get set correctly to fuel off. THIS IS ONLY FOR ENGINE 1, engine 2-4 work perfectly.
As mentioned, none of these are flight ending issues, just minor nuisances. Still very happy to have it in 2024 so soon.
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Thank you for the detailed feedback. We'll get this all logged and investigated. I'll leave a few comments on a few of the points you raise below.
The various clickspot/tooltip issues sound like they all could be linked to the same cause. In MSFS 2020 there used to be a "Lens Correction" option, that when enabled, would cause tooltips and clickspot to shift and be slightly offset from their actual controls. I don't believe there is an option for this in MSFS 2024, so it could be that this is enabled by default with no way of disabling it. That's just a guess at the moment though and we'll get this properly investigated to see if there's anything we can change on our end.
The interactive chart and checklists are likely to have some interaction issues with this build as we have had to change their interaction type logic to work around a separate issue in MSFS 2024. This is related to point 8 here: https://support.justflight.com/en/support/solutions/articles/17000143831-rj-professional-msfs-2024-known-issues
The Honeycomb Bravo fuel latch issues I am unable to replicate on my end. It sounds like you may have a control assignment control that is affecting only engine 1 that is conflicting with the fuel lever control assignments.
Mark - Just Flight
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@Mark For the fuel latch issue, I had no other assignments on the throttle 1 axis nor Engine 1 Fuel Off. Though even so, I deleted all existing assignments and re-added them and that seemed to resolve it. I guess it was just a weird 2024 quirk.
Thankfully, all other interactive charts, short-cut touch points, EFB, etc all work fine in VR. so for now the impact is minimal.
As for tooltips, I'll probably just turn them off altogether.
So really the only impactful things still remaining are Engine Start button and the inability to adjust HDG/IAS/ALT/VS/etc via the Bravo.
Thanks!
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Just did my first flight in VR too and actually my first flight using the RJ.
- Hoping the navigraph implimentation will be fixed
- EFB on maps was flickering but I think this is a normal MSFS 2024 issue as I had same on the Fenix
- The pointer in VR is far away from the knobs and its a miss and hit to click on something especially those afar.
- Only issue I had was that during landing the speed was a bit on the high side :) most probably my problem.... I could not find the brake yellow button and seems the spoilers did not retract neither.
Besides that I had a hell of a flight. Love this aircraft!
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@Godwisper Regarding point 4:
The BRAKE SELECT button is located on the pedestal, just aft of the throttles:
The lift spoilers will automatically deploy and will automatically retract once the aircraft's speed is less than 15 knots. We have the following FAQ which may be of interest: https://support.justflight.com/en/support/solutions/articles/17000142830-why-aren-t-the-lift-spoilers-retracting-after-landing-
Mark - Just Flight
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@ExcessionOCP No, I've not figured it out, I'm assuming it's something that will need to be adjusted with the aircraft itself, as the Bravo AP controls work fine in other aircraft in the sim.
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To bind them all you have to do is click the control you want for example reference altitude increase, turn the left knob to the alt notch then turn the right nob to the right, then flip the left knob one setting to left or right to complete the mapping.
The defaul maping of select xxxx and +/- doesnt work for the RJ.
Takes about 5 min to do, and it wont interfere with the default mappings for other aircraft.
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@Sergekoko Hi, thanks for that. It's odd that we'd have to do that when they just worked out-of-the-box in the 2020 version though.
However, I've done as you suggested and it works for the altitude and heading controls, but I can't make it work for the airspeed, course or the VS settings - have you managed to get it working for thiose?
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Should be the same process all you are essentially doing is just creating a combo binding of the position of fhe left rotary knob being held and then buttons press from a rotation of the right knob in a direction (each click is just button even though its a knob). Moving the left knob to a different position once your done releases the button hold, allowing the flight sim to register it as a button press too (i hate the way MSFS does bindings its really crappy). All of my work the same in 2024. Just double check the binding just in case maybe its not the correct ones or something. Personally i dont use those often as its just easier for my hand to interface with the mcp with the mouse as im panning around. I can see what the names of the other 6 aettings are for the 3 you mentioned and post them just i case.