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Bravo Throttle Quandrant - configuring air brake and lift spoiler?

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    vca92
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    I’m using a honeycomb bravo quadrant, is there a way to setup the controls so that on the axis I have set for the air brake, it’ll only enter the lift spoiler position when I actually bring it into the bottom detente on the throttle quadrant itself instead of when the axis is at zero just above the detente?

    I fly in VR so it’s sometime hard to know if I’ve gone too far with the air brake and placed it in the lift spoiler position, it’d be better if it’d only happen when all the way down in the detente.

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      I believe the Honeycomb Bravo has a detent in the spoiler axis that can have a separate control assignment from the axis. I would recommend trying to assign the SPOILERS AXIS control assignment to the axis and the EXTEND SPOILERS control assignment to the detent. That should mean you have full control of the airbrake using the axis, and then when on the ground you could move the spoilers lever into the detent to extend the lift spoilers.

      However, unlike the 146, you may find that this isn't required in the RJ due to the auto-spoilers system, as the lift spoilers will be automatically deployed on landing if the AUTO SPLR switch is set to ON on the overhead panel.

      Mark - Just Flight

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        Correct, it does have a detent on the axis I have setup for the spoiler. And I can assign EXTEND SPOILERS to that detent. However, when the SPOILERS AXIS/Air Brake gets to around 0-3% which is right above the detent, the lever in the aircraft enters the lift splr position and it'll deploy the spoilers at that point before the detent is even reached on the controller.

        I can add a deadzone to this axis of like 5% in the sensitivity settings, however this adds a deadzone to both ends of the range. So it'll stop the spoilers from deploying but I can never retract the air brake fully since its now 5%-95%.

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          The best way to manage your controls is by using SPAD.next and lvars.
          A free alternative could be LINDA, but I'm not sure if it supports MSFS or not.
          It takes a bit of tinkering but that's how I got the air brake and lift spoilers to function flawlessly.

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            The best way to manage your controls is by using SPAD.next and lvars.
            A free alternative could be LINDA, but I'm not sure if it supports MSFS or not.
            It takes a bit of tinkering but that's how I got the air brake and lift spoilers to function flawlessly.

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            @smashingjonor said in Bravo Throttle Quandrant - configuring air brake and lift spoiler?:

            The best way to manage your controls is by using SPAD.next and lvars.
            A free alternative could be LINDA, but I'm not sure if it supports MSFS or not.
            It takes a bit of tinkering but that's how I got the air brake and lift spoilers to function flawlessly.

            I've only ever heard of SPAD.next, is it "all or nothing" or can I use it for 1 or 2 controls while keeping all my other msfs managed bindings?

            Would it be easy for you to share what you had to do specifically for the air brake and lift spoilers? It appears the software has a 2 week trial so might be worth giving a try, as my current setup is a bit annoying to deal with...

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              @smashingjonor said in Bravo Throttle Quandrant - configuring air brake and lift spoiler?:

              The best way to manage your controls is by using SPAD.next and lvars.
              A free alternative could be LINDA, but I'm not sure if it supports MSFS or not.
              It takes a bit of tinkering but that's how I got the air brake and lift spoilers to function flawlessly.

              I've only ever heard of SPAD.next, is it "all or nothing" or can I use it for 1 or 2 controls while keeping all my other msfs managed bindings?

              Would it be easy for you to share what you had to do specifically for the air brake and lift spoilers? It appears the software has a 2 week trial so might be worth giving a try, as my current setup is a bit annoying to deal with...

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              @vca92 You can have some controls configured in MSFS and some in SPAD.next, it's really up to you.
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                @vca92 You can have some controls configured in MSFS and some in SPAD.next, it's really up to you.
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                @smashingjonor Thanks for these, this should be a good starting point.

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