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Spin Recovery Behavior

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved PA-38 Tomahawk
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    Jack Earnie
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    Congrats on the release of the PA38! It’s very well done. Learned to fly in the aircraft followed by a 44 year Navy Fighter and Airline career. Flew a half dozen brand new Tomahawks in 1979/80. An observation about spins-

    The stall and entry seem fine. It’s not overly sensitive to spin entry unless aggravated by a later control input that causes sideslip, caused by rudder or aileron. I thought that stalls might always result in spin entry based on reputation, but it’s reasonable, as was the real aircraft.

    Spin recovery however, probably takes too long and too many revolutions before the rotation stops. While I never performed extended spins beyond two or three turns, as long as the ailerons were neutral, full forward yoke, and power is idle, the aircraft would recover in roughly one turn once full rudder was set. See video for reference. It displays multiple control inputs and the results, but recovery using proper inputs was immediate and straightforward.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b9etPV_yVQ

    Aircraft feels very nice overall, brings back a lot of good memories.

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      Mark
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      Thank you for your feedback, I have passed this on to our flight model developer.

      With the limitations of the current MSFS flight model, we're treating it as a minor miracle that our flight model developer has been able to replicate the stall/spin characteristics as closely as it currently is simulated, so we can't say for certain if there is much more improvement to be had until more flight model options are made available in the SDK. We will take a look into this though.

      Mark - Just Flight

      Just Flight Development Assistant

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        Jack Earnie
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        I agree! I should have mentioned that I am familiar of the limitations of MSFS2020, and am hopeful that MSFS2024 brings better FM options.

        95% of customers won't buy the aircraft for it's spin behavior, they'll buy it for it's excellent flying qualities, which are impressively well modeled.

        Thank you for your consideration on possibly looking at recoveries in the future if it becomes feasible!

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