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    Volker
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    Hello,

    in icing contitions, in spide of de-ice switched on, ice is visible at the leading edges of the wing and t-tail.
    Is that normal or do i something wrong?

    Greetings, Volker.

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      Mark
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      The ice protection in the 146 uses air tapped from the engines, so for the ice protection to be functional it does require the ENGINE AIR valves to be opened, and then the respective anti/de-icing switches switched ON.

      In our 146 Professional, I believe we are using the standard MSFS icing system, so we aren't able to differentiate between anti-ice and de-ice modes on separate parts of the aircraft. We therefore assume all systems on the aircraft are "anti-ice" systems, which should only prevent the formation of ice on those surfaces, rather than melting the ice once it has already accumulated.

      It has been a while since we last looked at the ice protection system in the 146 Professional though, so I have logged this feedback on our internal bugs/feature request tracker for us to investigate further, and to see if there's anything we can improve in a future update.

      Mark - Just Flight

      Just Flight Development Assistant

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        Volker
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        Thank you Mark for that quick reply !
        Of course, the Engine Air Valves were also opened.
        Sounds good you have it on your internal bug list. It is not a big thing, i just have wondered why i can see ice at the leading edge :)

        Maybe another small thing i could tell you:
        I remember at the old 146/RJ with FSX, the Entry Light Switch at the cockpit door frame worked without engaged battery... At this msfs modell it works only if battery is switched on.
        Maybe you could check what is correct? Makes sense to me, if it would work without battery...

        Thanks a lot ! :) Greetings, Volker.

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        • V Volker

          Thank you Mark for that quick reply !
          Of course, the Engine Air Valves were also opened.
          Sounds good you have it on your internal bug list. It is not a big thing, i just have wondered why i can see ice at the leading edge :)

          Maybe another small thing i could tell you:
          I remember at the old 146/RJ with FSX, the Entry Light Switch at the cockpit door frame worked without engaged battery... At this msfs modell it works only if battery is switched on.
          Maybe you could check what is correct? Makes sense to me, if it would work without battery...

          Thanks a lot ! :) Greetings, Volker.

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          Mark
          JF Staff
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          @Volker I have just checked the real 146 manuals, and the flight deck entry lights are powered by the ground service bus. If the flight deck is powered, the ground service bus is normally supplied by AC BUS 2. If the flight deck is not powered, the ground service bus can be powered by EXT AC via the ground power unit. Therefore, in order for the entry lights to be illuminated, the flight deck will either need to be powered, or the GPU connected.

          I'm not in the 146 at the moment, but I believe that is the logic we are currently using for the flight deck entry lights. The flight deck entry lights do also link in with the vestibule lights in the forward galley, so we will be revisiting all this logic soon enough once we integrate the systems with our new 146 cabin and we can double-check that everything is correctly simulated.

          Mark - Just Flight

          Just Flight Development Assistant

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            Volker
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            Yes you are right, that is the current logig. If EXT AC is powered via GPU, the lights will illuminate.

            Thanks again for your efforts ! :)

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