Xbox version now available on the Marketplace
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As the title says the Xbox version of the Vulcan for MSFS is now available via the MS marketplace. The PC version is also released on the marketplace and can be purchased there or as usual direct from the Just Flight website.
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The MS marketplace version do not have weapon loadout option. Is there any chance for a weapon patch for the marketplace version in the future?
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@gzmichaelfxg It's not something we currently have planned as there would be complications around how we then make this weapon selectable in the simulator when using the updated EFB included in the marketplace version which has all the weapons options removed.
We have logged this feedback though on our internal feature request tracker, and we will investigate what options we have for a patch for a future update.
Mark - Just Flight
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Ok, this explains why I spent the last 2 hours trying to figure out how to load ordinance to my Vulcan!! Curious, why was this change made? I've been waiting since release to pick this up on Marketplace. I prefer Marketplace because I play on both PC and Xbox, and just keeps it easier to keep up with everything.
I had no idea I was buying an inferior version of the Vulcan! Even the manual mentions all the weapon options available in my Marketplace version.... what happened?
Been playing on PC for most of the day learning the plane, really enjoying it, you guys did a great job!! And I've bought all your other great planes to enjoy on both PC and Xbox, but why the downgrade on Marketplace Vulcan? If it's something to do with Xbox only and weapons (not sure what but ???? as look at all the shooting games there), how can I enable the ordinance weapon options on my PC version?
If I can't I'm going to be VERY disappointed and will unfortunately be inclinded to ask for a refund due to the difference in versions, which I'd really rather not do as it's a great plane otherwise!
Please advise.
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@be77solo Unfortunatly, it is a Microsoft policy that no weapons can be included in any release on the marketplace. This is a policy that all developers have to comply by, so we have to remove all weapons in order for the products to be approved for release.
We keep as many payload options as we are allowed on the EFB, so there are still options in the marketplace version to fit the Cylinder Tanks, Saddle Tanks, and MRR Pods, as well as the vast array of equipment options, but the other weapons such as Blue Steel and Mk13 Bombs will only be included in the product if purchased outside of the marketplace.
Mark - Just Flight
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@Mark said in Xbox version now available on the Marketplace:
@be77solo Unfortunatly, it is a Microsoft policy that no weapons can be included in any release on the marketplace. This is a policy that all developers have to comply by, so we have to remove all weapons in order for the products to be approved for release.
We keep as many payload options as we are allowed on the EFB, so there are still options in the marketplace version to fit the Cylinder Tanks, Saddle Tanks, and MRR Pods, as well as the vast array of equipment options, but the other weapons such as Blue Steel and Mk13 Bombs will only be included in the product if purchased outside of the marketplace.
Mark - Just Flight
So why does the manual that comes with the Marketplace version mention the Blue Steel, Mk13 Bombs, AGM-45 Shrike Missiles and the WE.177 Free Fall Bomb? I spent a couple hours trying to figure how to load them, I'm playing on PC, so expected the same experience as what is offered on your product page, advertisement videos etc...
What the path forward for those of us on PC that bought the Marketplace version without being told it was a different version than was originally offered and released? A separate download or something? Is there a link? I understand that won't be an option on Xbox, but zero reason it can't be for PC users.
Thank you
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@be77solo said in Xbox version now available on the Marketplace:
What the path forward for those of us on PC that bought the Marketplace version without being told it was a different version than was originally offered and released?
That's something you'd need to take up with MS. We supplied them with the correct spec. The manual is the same one for non-MarketPlace, but we have never supplied different manuals for any of our titles. It affects all military aircraft released on their platform from all developers - not just us.
It may be possible to release a 'weapons patch' for MarketPlace PC users in the future, but, as you point out, that won't work for console owners.
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However the bomb weight loading entires are still visible in the menu. It just doesn’t allow you to save the weight to that row item. The issue is now with weight and balance, if you don’t want to fly in tanker configuration. This version should at least provide “generic” load lines to replace the weapons so that we can simulate the weight and balance of such missions. Else all MS has provided is the “Tanker” version of the product, which is not the fully version off the main site we have paid for. This should be clearly communicated.
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@jmittiga The Vulcan on the marketplace includes the same three variants as the non-marketplace version: B.2, K.2 and MRR. Each of these variants can be selected and configured in the same realistic configurations in the marketplace product as they can in the non-marketplace product. The only difference between the two products is the inclusion of the weapons, which sadly, is a Microsoft policy that we have to abide by if we want products to be made available on the marketplace.
We are investigating what options we have on our end to supply a patch for PC users who would like to see the weapons in the marketplace product, but at this time we are unable to give any timeframe or a guarantee if this will be possible.
Mark - Just Flight
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@Derek said in Xbox version now available on the Marketplace:
@be77solo said in Xbox version now available on the Marketplace:
What the path forward for those of us on PC that bought the Marketplace version without being told it was a different version than was originally offered and released?
It may be possible to release a 'weapons patch' for MarketPlace PC users in the future, but, as you point out, that won't work for console owners.
That would be very much appreciated to have the option to get them back for PC users, thanks, hopefully you guys can get that pushed out.
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@Mark said in Xbox version now available on the Marketplace:
@jmittiga The Vulcan on the marketplace includes the same three variants as the non-marketplace version: B.2, K.2 and MRR. Each of these variants can be selected and configured in the same realistic configurations in the marketplace product as they can in the non-marketplace product. The only difference between the two products is the inclusion of the weapons, which sadly, is a Microsoft policy that we have to abide by if we want products to be made available on the marketplace.
We are investigating what options we have on our end to supply a patch for PC users who would like to see the weapons in the marketplace product, but at this time we are unable to give any timeframe or a guarantee if this will be possible.
Mark - Just Flight
Thanks Mark, a PC patch for us Marketplace buyers that had no idea they were missing would be fantastic. Loving the Vulcan otherwise!
Thank you
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A quick update on this, I spoke to the rest of the development team this morning and it looks like we ran into a roadblock with the method we were planning to use to enable the use of the weapons on the marketplace versions of the Vulcan. We do have another method that we think will work but it does require quite a bit of work and updating of the core Vulcan files so we will complete that as part of the next update to the Vulcan.
There is not a date set in stone yet for the next Vulcan update, but there is some work currently on going on some additions to the rest of the product, so the next update shouldn't be too far away.
Mark - Just Flight