Weight displayed on the FP issue?
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I never see this issue before but...may be, as it's automatic, I've never paid attention to this. -
Hi !
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I never see this issue before but...may be, as it's automatic, I've never paid attention to this.@cedric-hunter Did you rotate the SET WT knob on the fuel flow panel? The ramp weight that is displayed is automatically synced to the current aircraft weight when the flight is first started but it's then possible to manually adjust it using the SET WT knob. If the current aircraft weight changes by more than 100kg, e.g. the payload has been adjusted on the EFB, then it will automatically be resynced again.
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I've done a refueling simulation with GXS on this flight, maybe the issue come from there. I will check this on my futur flight, thanks for the feedback.
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One picture worth all the words :
I never see this issue before but...may be, as it's automatic, I've never paid attention to this.@cedric-hunter said in Speedcard issue:
Hi !
One picture worth all the words :
I never see this issue before but...may be, as it's automatic, I've never paid attention to this.I am facing the same issue, Speedcard does not reflect the aircrafts weight ...
I've to look into that a bit more, if i have time ...
EFB loads some different data from SIMBRIEF, too, IIRC i.e. PAX
Oliver
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@cedric-hunter said in Speedcard issue:
Hi !
One picture worth all the words :
I never see this issue before but...may be, as it's automatic, I've never paid attention to this.I am facing the same issue, Speedcard does not reflect the aircrafts weight ...
I've to look into that a bit more, if i have time ...EFB loads some different data from SIMBRIEF, too, IIRC i.e. PAX
Oliver
This isn't an issue we are able to replicate on our end.
One thing noted in the screenshot is an aircraft weight of 33,400KG is above the Maximum TakeOff Weight (MTOW) of all the F28 variants, so it shouldn't be possible to load the aircraft that heavily through SimBrief. The weight on the speed chart is the current weight of the aircraft rounded up to the nearest thousand. So at the time that screenshot was taken, was the Gross Weight on the EFB between 30,000KG and 30,999KG?
If the EFB Gross Weight matches the speed chart weight, then I can only think of two possible causes of the discrepancy:
- The SET WT knob has been manually adjusted to change the aircraft's weight
- The CONS button has been pressed meaning that the bottom digital display is currently showing fuel consumed on that flight (although 33,000KG consumed is almost triple the maximum fuel capacity of the F28 so I doubt that is the cause).
Mark - Just Flight
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This isn't an issue we are able to replicate on our end.
One thing noted in the screenshot is an aircraft weight of 33,400KG is above the Maximum TakeOff Weight (MTOW) of all the F28 variants, so it shouldn't be possible to load the aircraft that heavily through SimBrief. The weight on the speed chart is the current weight of the aircraft rounded up to the nearest thousand. So at the time that screenshot was taken, was the Gross Weight on the EFB between 30,000KG and 30,999KG?
If the EFB Gross Weight matches the speed chart weight, then I can only think of two possible causes of the discrepancy:
- The SET WT knob has been manually adjusted to change the aircraft's weight
- The CONS button has been pressed meaning that the bottom digital display is currently showing fuel consumed on that flight (although 33,000KG consumed is almost triple the maximum fuel capacity of the F28 so I doubt that is the cause).
Mark - Just Flight
@mark Hi Mark,
In fact the speedcard is ok since is corresponding to the EFB weight. I don't know why the weight of 33.4t was displayed since I believed it was automaticaly set with the EFB. And I was believing this weight was updated automatically during the flight, which is not the case...So, Mark can you confirm to me this weight have to be set manually before each flight?
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@mark Hi Mark,
In fact the speedcard is ok since is corresponding to the EFB weight. I don't know why the weight of 33.4t was displayed since I believed it was automaticaly set with the EFB. And I was believing this weight was updated automatically during the flight, which is not the case...So, Mark can you confirm to me this weight have to be set manually before each flight?
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@cedric-hunter No, the weight should never have to be set manually, but the option is there to manually set the weight if you desire.
The logic behind it is that when loading into the aircraft, the digital display will display the same weight the aircraft loads in with.
When importing a flight plan from SimBrief and importing the weights, the digital display will then be updated to match the new weight, and that weight will gradually decrease as fuel burns off during the flight.
If however, you import the flight plan and weights from SimBrief and then you manually adjust the SET WT knob to say the aircraft is 1,000KG heavier than it really is, then as fuel burns off during the flight that digital display will constantly show the aircraft being 1,000KG heavier than the actual aircraft's weight.
So in essence, if you don't adjust the SET WT knob the digital display should always be accurate to the aircraft's actual weight. If you do adjust the SET WT knob, the digital display will always show an offset that is proportional to the change in weight you made.
Mark - Just Flight
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@cedric-hunter No, the weight should never have to be set manually, but the option is there to manually set the weight if you desire.
The logic behind it is that when loading into the aircraft, the digital display will display the same weight the aircraft loads in with.
When importing a flight plan from SimBrief and importing the weights, the digital display will then be updated to match the new weight, and that weight will gradually decrease as fuel burns off during the flight.
If however, you import the flight plan and weights from SimBrief and then you manually adjust the SET WT knob to say the aircraft is 1,000KG heavier than it really is, then as fuel burns off during the flight that digital display will constantly show the aircraft being 1,000KG heavier than the actual aircraft's weight.
So in essence, if you don't adjust the SET WT knob the digital display should always be accurate to the aircraft's actual weight. If you do adjust the SET WT knob, the digital display will always show an offset that is proportional to the change in weight you made.
Mark - Just Flight
@mark Ok it's understood, then i have to do some checks
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This isn't an issue we are able to replicate on our end.
One thing noted in the screenshot is an aircraft weight of 33,400KG is above the Maximum TakeOff Weight (MTOW) of all the F28 variants, so it shouldn't be possible to load the aircraft that heavily through SimBrief. The weight on the speed chart is the current weight of the aircraft rounded up to the nearest thousand. So at the time that screenshot was taken, was the Gross Weight on the EFB between 30,000KG and 30,999KG?
If the EFB Gross Weight matches the speed chart weight, then I can only think of two possible causes of the discrepancy:
- The SET WT knob has been manually adjusted to change the aircraft's weight
- The CONS button has been pressed meaning that the bottom digital display is currently showing fuel consumed on that flight (although 33,000KG consumed is almost triple the maximum fuel capacity of the F28 so I doubt that is the cause).
Mark - Just Flight
@mark I've checked on my last flight, the weight is set on the FP at the beginning of the flight but no updated during the flight. Speedcard are ok witht EFB.
Gross weight for the mk4000 is showing good @33112 , EFB display an overload @ more than 33112Kgs.
I think there was the 33.4t on the PF because i've tried to put more fuel at a moment, ans the system didin't update when I've remove it... -
@cedric-hunter No, the weight should never have to be set manually, but the option is there to manually set the weight if you desire.
The logic behind it is that when loading into the aircraft, the digital display will display the same weight the aircraft loads in with.
When importing a flight plan from SimBrief and importing the weights, the digital display will then be updated to match the new weight, and that weight will gradually decrease as fuel burns off during the flight.
If however, you import the flight plan and weights from SimBrief and then you manually adjust the SET WT knob to say the aircraft is 1,000KG heavier than it really is, then as fuel burns off during the flight that digital display will constantly show the aircraft being 1,000KG heavier than the actual aircraft's weight.
So in essence, if you don't adjust the SET WT knob the digital display should always be accurate to the aircraft's actual weight. If you do adjust the SET WT knob, the digital display will always show an offset that is proportional to the change in weight you made.
Mark - Just Flight
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@mark I've done a complete reinstall of the add-on, still the same, the weight on the FP doesn't update by himself during the flight.
@cedric-hunter Thank you for your feedback. We have now been able to replicate an issue where the aircraft weight on the digital fuel flow indicator isn't decreasing as fuel is consumed. We have found the cause of the issue and a fix will be included in the next update to the F28 Professional.
Mark - Just Flight
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Thank you to the team !
