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Performance tables for flexible take-off thrust missing on documentation

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    PapaFox85
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    On the Fokker 28 there is 3 possibilities to set engines for takeoff:

    • Full throttle (ok easy to set πŸ˜„)
    • Rated take-off thrust (P7 set take-off) > this one described on the tutorial and JF manual
    • Flexible take-off thrust > who should be normally used on long runway and normal condition, and not possible to set because of missing performance information. Charts with take off distance depending of the TOW, OAT, pressure altitude and flaps setting is needed and missing.
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    • WooliesW Woolies

      Guess you need to get yourself a copy of a Flight Manual for the F28 to get all the info you need?

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      PapaFox85
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      @woolies yes exactly this is my question, where to find theses charts? I can’t found, If somebody knows?

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        Woolies
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        Ha, that is always the challenge, finding all the info you need from a copy of an operations manual.

        https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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          Ha, that is always the challenge, finding all the info you need from a copy of an operations manual.

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          PapaFox85
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          @woolies it should be found on the Flight Handbook volume 2, but unfortunately impossible to get a copy.
          If a former F28 pilot read this message, please share this golden manual πŸ™πŸ»

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            taguilo
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            Derated take off is calculated using the same tables for normal take off. Just select a row with temperature higher than current, and altitude according to current atm conditions, interpolate and set the index with that value.

            Tomas

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              Derated take off is calculated using the same tables for normal take off. Just select a row with temperature higher than current, and altitude according to current atm conditions, interpolate and set the index with that value.

              Tomas

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              PapaFox85
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              @taguilo how to select the correct higher temperature? You cannot choose randomly, takeoff distance charts are missing for that.

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                @woolies it should be found on the Flight Handbook volume 2, but unfortunately impossible to get a copy.
                If a former F28 pilot read this message, please share this golden manual πŸ™πŸ»

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                piedmonitor
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                @papafox85 said in Performance tables for flexible take-off thrust missing on documentation:

                but unfortunately impossible to get a copy.

                Google is your friend.
                https://www.eflightmanuals.com/ITEM_EFM/SDETAIL_EFM.asp?mID=6047

                Mk 1000
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                Mk 4000
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                You'll need to keep looking for Mk 2000/3000 performance tables.

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                  @papafox85 said in Performance tables for flexible take-off thrust missing on documentation:

                  but unfortunately impossible to get a copy.

                  Google is your friend.
                  https://www.eflightmanuals.com/ITEM_EFM/SDETAIL_EFM.asp?mID=6047

                  Mk 1000
                  b712d538-f4ba-4499-a681-513fd9dc8ea7-image.png
                  033cf5b3-724e-44b2-ba9e-8473deb2eac8-image.png

                  Mk 4000
                  8ae1fcf8-fc4c-4e74-8aac-9faeaef4f8f0-image.png
                  b576f11d-4127-41d1-bd43-6bf945fb5632-image.png

                  You'll need to keep looking for Mk 2000/3000 performance tables.

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                  PapaFox85
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                  @piedmonitor Thanks for the link!

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                    @piedmonitor Thanks for the link!

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                    Woolies
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                    @papafox85 I hope you find your take off distance performance tables in that manual, good luck

                    https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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                    • WooliesW Woolies

                      @papafox85 I hope you find your take off distance performance tables in that manual, good luck

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                      piedmonitor
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                      You won't find the take off distance tables in that manual, there's a sample page but it would have been a separate booklet kept in the cockpit along with the speed cards.

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                        Woolies
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                        Indeed. Tis a shame that the majority of the documentation for these old aircraft die with them when they get scrapped.

                        https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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                          You won't find the take off distance tables in that manual, there's a sample page but it would have been a separate booklet kept in the cockpit along with the speed cards.

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                          PapaFox85
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                          @piedmonitor Thanks for the advise, won’t spend 48$ for nothing. The information is on the Flight Handbook volume 2. I have bought the volume 1 and training book for 10$, but unfortunately the volume 2 or 3 is not available.

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                          • WooliesW Woolies

                            Indeed. Tis a shame that the majority of the documentation for these old aircraft die with them when they get scrapped.

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                            PapaFox85
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                            @woolies yes very sad.. when scrapping documentation, on the past people did not imagine that one day the aircraft will be flyable again on simulator!

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