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    jetpro
    wrote on last edited by jetpro
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    Any plans to update the GPS options, so we can add the TDS GTNXi?

    Thanks
    Pete

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    dadgametime
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    @jetpro you can use the external TDS unit to control the 530. I think the plan is to add the FMC and that’s it. I think the 530 is a temporary measure until they finish the FMC

    EDIT: I open my big mouth and then find it does not work. Dang it

    Brian
    https://www.flyaka.com
    Alaska Adventures

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    You should be able use the TDS GTNXi in standalone mode to control any aircraft that does not have it integrated. If you are unsure how to do this check the manual that comes with the unit or join their discord to ask for assistance with the unit https://discord.gg/NupgPCUgsH

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    Having said that ... I can't get it to work lol

    Will continue to test :)

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    Ok. Not sure it will work. Have tried but the GNS530 feeds the aircraft and cant get it to follow the GTNXi route with the GNS530 either active or not active.

    The GTNXi works fine standalone with the Bae146 with the nav switch to RNAV but no such option in the F28. Perhaps when the UNS-1 comes to F28 as an option then it might work. Time will tell.

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    @woolies I've been trying the exact same thing but it just won't work. When deselecting GPS in the EFB, I can't select CDI to GPS on the GTNXi without it instantly reverting to VLOC.

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    rbringh
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    It would have been perfect if they offered the same FMS options as the Analog series planes.

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    After some digging found that the reason why GTN Xi cannot control F28 is because in this aircraft we are not able to disable the WT GPS using the LVAR:XMLVAR_GPS_DISABLED_AS530_1 command with a utility like SPAD.neXt, and as a result the GTN and GNS530 both 'fight' for control. Hopefully team takes note, because it would be nice if the F28 was compatible like the BAe 146 appears to be.

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    Ok, kinda makes sense although I don't use spad and have no experience of it.

    To be honest, I would never use the Gtnxi or gns with either as I prefer good old navaids lol

    Just fun testing out these things for science.

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    @woolies I love navaids as much as the next person, but I fly almost exclusively in the high arctic and there are no navaids between the airports. Yellowknife to Rankin Inlet cannot do VOR to VOR or NDB flights GPS and dead reckoning are your only options and there aren't a lot of VFR visual waypoints in the Arctic to verify that you are on course. So the FMC will be needed to say the least

    Brian
    https://www.flyaka.com
    Alaska Adventures

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    Woolies
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    Ha, yes for sure. Done a few flights up there in the DC-6 with limited navaids and using visuals, don't use the GPS option in that either lol

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    Martyn JF Staff
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    From our perspective, we are holding off adding any other GPS options until we're 100% happy that the WT GNS and custom UNS-1 FMS are working as intended.

    We've had all sorts of challenges supporting multiple GPS options in our PA28s so we're a bit wary of introducing all those to the much more complex F28, but it's something that we'd like to do eventually.

    Martyn - Development Manager

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    eker
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    @martyn
    I cannot see how GPS could work in F28 - Total mess with options and selections.

    Missing GPS? - Buy a different plane.

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    sdflyer
    replied to eker on last edited by
    #15

    I would like to see GNS430 on the dash (like in PMDG DC-6 ) and WX radar as is

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    @eker there are a lot of things were not meant to be at time when airplane was rolled out factory TCAS would be one of them. Now days nothing can fly without GPS. From GPS fixes to RNP/LPV approaches - GPS is no longer luxury it's is necessity .

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    This is always a tricky subject when using a plane from an age gone by in the modern world, but I always see this as a challenge to take on and is why I love planes like the F28, 146, DC-6 etc. and accept the challenge of using them as intended with the methods of the time. There are still many approaches that can be utilised despite the decline in the old navaids we know and love.

    Aircraft like these are not for everyone but adding flexibility of an FMS or GPS does potentially get more people to fly them and appreciate them where they would otherwise ignore them.

    For me, I would never really use a GPS or FMS in them but can understand why some need these options.

    All personal preference and it is good that JF try and assist with this by offering the GPS and FMS options they do.

    Enjoy the F28 whichever way you need to.

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    rbringh
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    Planes do get updated over time. I enjoy GPS and VOR guided flights. It would be super if this plane had options similar to the Analog series Just Flight did. If it had better options than the 530 say the GTN-750 I would have my 1000 and 2000 radios only, 3000 and 4000 the GTN750. Just gives some variety and ability to make longer flights without going to the bathroom....we don't actually have co-pilots in the sim...lol.

    Anyway I use the 530 but I hate it. The Embraer had it when it came out. They finally offered the option for the GTN750 and changed my whole outlook on the plane.

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    @eker GPS, as I said earlier, is necessary until the UNS-1 is released. The F28 absolutely used an FMS as NDBs and VORs were and are being phased out and in many places are unavailable. Places where the F28 provided services. As I indicated earlier, Alaska and Canada saw a lot of F28 service and needed GPS/FMS to navigate in their time. So while I’m all in favor of keeping it real, you need to realize that FMS and GPS are just as “real” as the older systems. Especially in MSFS where we are dealing with the dying network of ground-based navaids that have had their power levels decreased significantly as they are seen as unused.

    Brian
    https://www.flyaka.com
    Alaska Adventures

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    eker
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    @dadgametime
    Thanks!
    Hope JF install something close to original GPS.
    Strange how they close VORs -
    Back in the old days GPS in 737/767 was secondary and could fly with unservicable GPS.
    GPS is controlled by military and can be moved/shut down.
    While VOR is controlled by civil authority.
    Up in Northern Norway Russian occasionally jam GPS - Widerøe have to navigate by old school VOR causing delays.

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