No traffic at destination. Again and again.
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I did 6 flights with the latest version, on half of them I noticed that after a while at cruise level, I saw fewer and fewer AI traffic until there wasn't any around at all during descent with - of course - no traffic at my (before set) destination.
This system or way to do it is so unreliable and really frustrating. You never know if you are going to have traffic on arrival. You're always "fearing" the system is not working properly. FSLTS on the other had is a great "fire and forget" setup, it's just running, working, and anywhere you go (destination, alternate, emergency) there's traffic....
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@disco79stu said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
I did 6 flights with the latest version, on half of them I noticed that after a while at cruise level, I saw fewer and fewer AI traffic until there wasn't any around at all during descent with - of course - no traffic at my (before set) destination.
This system or way to do it is so unreliable and really frustrating. You never know if you are going to have traffic on arrival. You're always "fearing" the system is not working properly. FSLTS on the other had is a great "fire and forget" setup, it's just running, working, and anywhere you go (destination, alternate, emergency) there's traffic....
I have to agree with this unfortunately.
Patric
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same. This new system is silly and unreliable. Previous versions of FS Traffic were not like this. I abandoned traffic control center in favor of fsltl live injection which uses fs traffic models (and AIG models also) and not looking back.
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@disco79stu You're right, it's broken. I don't understand since it seemed they were testing forever before it was released.
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As much as I think 1.05 is an improvement, I do find the set up frustrating. It's the having to confirm the ICAO in the toolbar in order to see flights at your destination airport. I'm constantly forgetting to do this, and it is frustrating.
I just wish it was a "fire and forget" set up in that you'd launch FS and not have to take supplementary steps in order to get the thing to work. :disappointed_face:
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@bpfonteyn said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
'm constantly forgetting to do this, and it is frustrating.
exactly my thoughts. I don't get why this is even necessary. I too tend to forget this from time to time and when I realize it (eg during approach), there seems to be nothing you can do about it.
even if FST need to be "told" what your destination is, I don't get why they don't add a simple automatic simbrief query or something, like GSX does. -
For me, FSTraffic has turned into just a provider of models and repaints lacking in FSLTL - period. The program turned me off when I discovered the issue with aircraft radiuses where the AI traffic does not show up in airports which is an issue that AIG nor FSLTL suffer from. I got tired of fiddling with it and reverted to FSLTL, using it along with FSTraffic models and paints and working very well.
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I can only agree, a Simbrief import would be very great
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Im also done with addon.... It never works on any destination airport.
Last time i have bought something from Justflight... Im done with the company
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@frostbeule said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
Im also done with addon.... It never works on any destination airport.
Last time i have bought something from Justflight... Im done with the company
Have you been in touch with JF support?
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@derek Do you know if support is working on this issue? I got a message after contacting support, but the requests in that reply, with testing different airports would take me so much time, time I simply don't have... To be able to know if for example the wingspan compatibility mode works for a certain airport, I would have to fly a complete route to that airport several times. But I can't do that kind of testing, then all my "play" time will go to testing. And I mean, support seems to reply only one time a day (at best, seems more like a few times a week), and the waiting also gets very time consuming for me.
At the moment I use FSLTL injector instead (but I actually liked the time table of FS Traffic better so I would rather use that) with the FS Traffic models. Using FSLTL also means I get more traffic enoute. It works to do like this of course, but I hope Just Flight sorts these issues out as it was supposed to in the new 1.0.5 update. So far the improvements to the core product is not working as stated in the change log, at least not for me...
Best regards
Jan
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@janjoensson I also submitted a support ticket and received the same reply. I had already tested everything they asked and told them so. Nothing heard back.
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@janjoensson said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
@art_p Thanks! Well that was not very hopeful... @Derek what to do?
If the problem doesn't affect all users it is very difficult to replicate and/or diagnose. if you have been in touch with Support then they are probably best placed to fix the problem. However, if we can't replicate it and it is not possible for you to test, I am not sure what to suggest. Our support team will do their best to assist. We are UK based and generally work UK hours - 9am to 5pm.
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@derek Well I am Stockholm based so it is only one hour time difference. That can't be the reason for slow replies... It's strange if it can't be replicated since I mean there are quite a few users here reporting the same issue. I can do some tests but if you want me to do several hours and weeks of testing, then I need to get paid as a consultant.
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@janjoensson said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
@derek Well I am Stockholm based so it is only one hour time difference. That can't be the reason for slow replies... It's strange if it can't be replicated since I mean there are quite a few users here reporting the same issue. I can do some tests but if you want me to do several hours and weeks of testing, then I need to get paid as a consultant.
We would be happy to pay, but as you are in Sweden we couldn't afford the going rate. What your cleaners pay in tax, our surgeons get in wages.
On a serious note, not all the issues on this thread are the same and, where you have a program that has sold a large number of copies, it is very hard to pinpoint issues that occur for a releatively small number of users. If you have replied to support then they will be in touch again.
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Hi Derek, I love this product and really want it to work, but sometimes it does, and other times it does not, especially on arrival.
Also the wingspans is still not sorted, and if you add 744,s they will not appear at most major airports.
Most of the confusion comes from justflight not explaining what the product should actually do.
If I could give you a question, could you explain what the product should do
I have scheduled departures and arrivals set at 6 min intervals, my time before departure options is set to 60
so in my mind i should see 10 aircraft parked at the departure gates and 10 at the arrival gates. with aircraft taking off and landing every 6 mins
Is this correctHere is where I think it's going wrong, it only shows scheduled aircraft at arrive but does not spawn extra.
ie When we start at departure, we see nearly every gat full, ie the program has spawned in the aircraft. Then we see the aircraft taking off from the schedule,.
But on arrival we do not see any spawned aircraft at the gates, only the scheduled aircraft. so if you have your setting at 60 if an aircraft landing every 10 mins ,then you will only see 6 aircraft -
@hunterdouglas said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
If I could give you a question, could you explain what the product should do
I have scheduled departures and arrivals set at 6 min intervals, my time before departure options is set to 60
so in my mind i should see 10 aircraft parked at the departure gates and 10 at the arrival gates. with aircraft taking off and landing every 6 mins
Is this correct
Here is where I think it's going wrong, it only shows scheduled aircraft at arrive but does not spawn extra.
ie When we start at departure, we see nearly every gat full, ie the program has spawned in the aircraft. Then we see the aircraft taking off from the schedule,.
But on arrival we do not see any spawned aircraft at the gates, only the scheduled aircraft. so if you have your setting at 60 if an aircraft landing every 10 mins ,then you will only see 6 aircraftI think the above is excatly the sort of thing to ask Just Flight support. They should be able to answer questions like that by asking the dev team.
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@derek Hahaha yes that is probably true!
However, looking through different forums and also comments on YouTube videos reporting on the new update 1.0.5 there actually seem to be many users describing the same issue, that is: Lots of aircrafts at departure, less and less traffic enroute, and very few aircrafts on arrival.
I have watched how the traffic behaves and as many describe the problem it seems when on the departure airport lots of traffic is spawned because they are prepared for departure depending on the spawn before departure time set. But then on arrival it seems as the amount of aircrafts parked when you arrive depend on how many aircrafts have actually managed to land. Now from what I can see lots of aircrafts go around for some reason, even if no other aircrafts block the runway. This cause the aircrafts to fly around for a long time. Occasionally they manage to land but the influx of aircrafts is much too small to fill the airport, as it would have been if more of these aircrafts managed to land or were spawned directly as parked instead.
I can see in the forums and comments that many users have switched to using FSLTL injector instead. That injector manages go arounds with after a few minutes parking the aircraft on the airport instead of having it flying around on low altitude for a long time. That is probably why when you come in on approach using FSLTL the airport is already filled with parked aircrafts.
Best regards Jan
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@dmullert said in No traffic at destination. Again and again.:
For me, FSTraffic has turned into just a provider of models and repaints lacking in FSLTL - period. The program turned me off when I discovered the issue with aircraft radiuses where the AI traffic does not show up in airports which is an issue that AIG nor FSLTL suffer from. I got tired of fiddling with it and reverted to FSLTL, using it along with FSTraffic models and paints and working very well.
Hi,
Could you explain what you mean by the issue with aircraft radiuses? Are referring to wingspans?
Thank you
John - JF
