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BAe146 V1.9: Manual Fuel & Payload via EFB

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    Fab10
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    Thank you for the update.
    I wanted to fly a few local flights without using SimBrief.
    I clicked on the fuel / payload window in the EFB and the on-screen numeric pad opened and the FOB goes blank. No figures are displayed as you type.
    After pressing enter, the original figure fuel remains.
    In order to load the payload/fuel required, I needed to use the MSFS handlebar menu.
    Thanks.

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      Thank you for the update.
      I wanted to fly a few local flights without using SimBrief.
      I clicked on the fuel / payload window in the EFB and the on-screen numeric pad opened and the FOB goes blank. No figures are displayed as you type.
      After pressing enter, the original figure fuel remains.
      In order to load the payload/fuel required, I needed to use the MSFS handlebar menu.
      Thanks.

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      Gabe777
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      @fab10

      I think the BAe was one addon that needs to be fuelled using the main sim input... but it was reflected in the EFB.

      Don't know how the new version is meant to work though. Haven't gotten around to updating it yet.

      If it's randomly distributing weight... it will depend on how much fuel you load and if you use the centre tanks.

      So you'd think they would have fixed it, so it can all be done from the EFB. Then it can calculate CG, Trim position etc.

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        @fab10

        I think the BAe was one addon that needs to be fuelled using the main sim input... but it was reflected in the EFB.

        Don't know how the new version is meant to work though. Haven't gotten around to updating it yet.

        If it's randomly distributing weight... it will depend on how much fuel you load and if you use the centre tanks.

        So you'd think they would have fixed it, so it can all be done from the EFB. Then it can calculate CG, Trim position etc.

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        Fab10
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        @gabe777 Maybe so, but I seem to recall always being able to enter our own values into the EFB, and that the built-in on-screen numpad pops open suggests one is meant to do this.

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          HaMa
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          You have to "fill" the tanks one by one. So i.e. for 5000lbs of fuel you click on the left tank and type 2500 and enter, the same with the right tank and the same with centre tank, wich you set to 0 in this example.

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            You have to "fill" the tanks one by one. So i.e. for 5000lbs of fuel you click on the left tank and type 2500 and enter, the same with the right tank and the same with centre tank, wich you set to 0 in this example.

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            Fab10
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            @hama
            I'm unsure if you mean adding fuel via the handlebar menu, but if so, then changing the total fuel slider works fine. If you mean via the fuel tanks +/- on the EFB, then I agree, that works.

            However, this does not explain why (a) we were previously able to add fuel directly via the EFB fuel total window, and (b) why the numpad pops-up when an attempt is made to enter fuel via the EFB.

            Another issue is that when I was flying the BAe146-300 just now, I took a screenshot of the EFB to show the numpad and blank figures in the fuel window (even though I typed a figure there, nothing is showing). The issue is, and it is a bug, that when I pressed enter to remove the numpad, my fuel went to ZERO and I had all four engines flameout. Not being at cruise left me unable to restart so I lost the flight.
            https://www.dropbox.com/s/tps9ss2w1l4g8b5/BAe146-300%20fuel%20EFB%20issues.png?dl=0

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              @hama
              I'm unsure if you mean adding fuel via the handlebar menu, but if so, then changing the total fuel slider works fine. If you mean via the fuel tanks +/- on the EFB, then I agree, that works.

              However, this does not explain why (a) we were previously able to add fuel directly via the EFB fuel total window, and (b) why the numpad pops-up when an attempt is made to enter fuel via the EFB.

              Another issue is that when I was flying the BAe146-300 just now, I took a screenshot of the EFB to show the numpad and blank figures in the fuel window (even though I typed a figure there, nothing is showing). The issue is, and it is a bug, that when I pressed enter to remove the numpad, my fuel went to ZERO and I had all four engines flameout. Not being at cruise left me unable to restart so I lost the flight.
              https://www.dropbox.com/s/tps9ss2w1l4g8b5/BAe146-300%20fuel%20EFB%20issues.png?dl=0

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              Fab10
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              @fab10 Also, adjusting fuel via the -/+ buttons in the EFB does not really allow a very granular adjustment as each click is 186Kg.

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                @fab10 Also, adjusting fuel via the -/+ buttons in the EFB does not really allow a very granular adjustment as each click is 186Kg.

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                Fab10
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                @fab10 When you add passengers via the EFB, the same numpad pop-outs, but this does allow you to enter a figure correctly.

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                  @hama
                  I'm unsure if you mean adding fuel via the handlebar menu, but if so, then changing the total fuel slider works fine. If you mean via the fuel tanks +/- on the EFB, then I agree, that works.

                  However, this does not explain why (a) we were previously able to add fuel directly via the EFB fuel total window, and (b) why the numpad pops-up when an attempt is made to enter fuel via the EFB.

                  Another issue is that when I was flying the BAe146-300 just now, I took a screenshot of the EFB to show the numpad and blank figures in the fuel window (even though I typed a figure there, nothing is showing). The issue is, and it is a bug, that when I pressed enter to remove the numpad, my fuel went to ZERO and I had all four engines flameout. Not being at cruise left me unable to restart so I lost the flight.
                  https://www.dropbox.com/s/tps9ss2w1l4g8b5/BAe146-300%20fuel%20EFB%20issues.png?dl=0

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                  HaMa
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                  @fab10 said in BAe146 V1.9: Manual Fuel & Payload via EFB:

                  I'm unsure if you mean adding fuel via the handlebar menu

                  No, i meant adding fuel in the EFB Aircraft page. When i click in the tank field, not the +/-, then the "numpad" pops up and i can type any count i want and after clicking "Enter" this count is set in thus tank (if it is in the limits if course).
                  Adding fuel via the FS Payloadpagesliders or the +/- clickspots in the EFB is too unprecise for me.

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                    @fab10 said in BAe146 V1.9: Manual Fuel & Payload via EFB:

                    I'm unsure if you mean adding fuel via the handlebar menu

                    No, i meant adding fuel in the EFB Aircraft page. When i click in the tank field, not the +/-, then the "numpad" pops up and i can type any count i want and after clicking "Enter" this count is set in thus tank (if it is in the limits if course).
                    Adding fuel via the FS Payloadpagesliders or the +/- clickspots in the EFB is too unprecise for me.

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                    Fab10
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                    @hama
                    Thanks, I agree.
                    This is very strange, I just tried adding fuel in a C&D state, and clicking the fuel window to open the numpad worked fine, so I was able to type in a fuel quantity and ZFW.
                    Great, now to fly!

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                    • F Fab10

                      Thank you for the update.
                      I wanted to fly a few local flights without using SimBrief.
                      I clicked on the fuel / payload window in the EFB and the on-screen numeric pad opened and the FOB goes blank. No figures are displayed as you type.
                      After pressing enter, the original figure fuel remains.
                      In order to load the payload/fuel required, I needed to use the MSFS handlebar menu.
                      Thanks.

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                      tcarmona
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                      @fab10 For 5000 in FOB, insted of writting 5000, write 05000
                      , and it works. It is blank for me too but when press enter it appears.

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                        @fab10 For 5000 in FOB, insted of writting 5000, write 05000
                        , and it works. It is blank for me too but when press enter it appears.

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                        Fab10
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                        @tcarmona Thank you, yes, it has been working fine for a while.

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